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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #21
    Originally posted by badass316
    For Pacquiao's sake I hope PBF does try to walk him down and try to force him into a slug fest. Every fighter that I've seen that tried to bring the fight to Pacquiao has kissed the canvas. And judging from the 2nd round in the PBF/Mosley fight, I don't think PBF will be any different.

    Be as it may, I don't think PBF will implore that strategy (trying to lure pacquiao into a fight). I think he's going to box, counter punch, and try to frustrate Pacquiao. Going with recent history, fighting fire with fire against Pacquiao is not the most sensible thing to do.
    You dont get it. Watch him fight left handers. Its not a SLUG FEST.

    Just because hes walking forward doesnt mean hes Paul Williams. In the second round of the Shane fight he was boxing. From the 3rd on he walked him down and ****d him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      "Dont make me do something I dont want to do Shane"

      ---****m

      There is more to stopping people than just "hitting the hardest". Naz was seconds away from stopping the Shane fight.

      I got Floyd by UD 10-2 or late KO.
      ****m was threatening to stop the fight because Shane wasn't fighting back (not letting his hands go), not because he was getting beaten up to the point where the corner has to step in for the safety of their fighter.

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        #23
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Thats just it. Floyd will drag him into a fight. Pac will take it at as a challenge that Floyd is walking right at him. Not realizing Floyd cant fight any other way and that that he (Pac) could.

        The smartest guy in the whole building is Floyd. It will show.
        Ive explained many times why i feel Manny will win and then other people sorta rip it up because their Floyd fans and they have their reasons for Floyd winning but the word i have in my heading is that my gut just tells me Manny will win the fight but and you have alluded to it and i think its Floyds greatest weapon and you probably do aswell its Floyds ring intelligence that could be a big deciding factor his ability to make subtle changes during the fight that you mightnt notice on tv but that wins him fights and it could be the winning ingredient against Manny its just my gut tells me Manny but in fairness you made some very good points man

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          #24
          Originally posted by badass316
          ****m was threatening to stop the fight because Shane wasn't fighting back (not letting his hands go), not because he was getting beaten up to the point where the corner has to step in for the safety of their fighter.
          That was my point. He wasnt letting his hands go because Floyd pout him on the defensive and he had ZERO clue as to what punch Floyd would throw. He just stood there shaking and flinching.

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            #25
            I am a big pac fan but i have to be honest i cant see pac beating floyd.
            Floyd has to much skills and he wasn't in any real ring wars,pac on the other hand has suffered losses and has taken some big beatings in the last few years,yes hes fit and hes fast but against floyd that wont be of any help

            Judging the fight against clottey pacquiao didnt look good for someone who hardly threw a punch.

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              #26
              Originally posted by any craic lad?
              Ive explained many times why i feel Manny will win and then other people sorta rip it up because their Floyd fans and they have their reasons for Floyd winning but the word i have in my heading is that my gut just tells me Manny will win the fight but and you have alluded to it and i think its Floyds greatest weapon and you probably do aswell its Floyds ring intelligence that could be a big deciding factor his ability to make subtle changes during the fight that you mightnt notice on tv but that wins him fights and it could be the winning ingredient against Manny its just my gut tells me Manny but in fairness you made some very good points man
              Fair enough. Most Pac and Floyd fans can't debate this fight at all really. Just always dumb stuff like "MANNY is the best he stops BOY in 3" or "Floyd is God". I never see people try to break it down.

              I told another smart Pac fan. That if Pac is ready to accept that in this fight he will take more punishment than he has in any other fight. Then he's ready to win. I saw something in the Clottey fight and thats how easy he bruised up. His face took alot of damage. Maybe Floyd can get a cut and a some swelling going.

              Pacquiao will have to show a side of him that we havent seen yet to beat Mayweather. If Roach and him are down we'll get a great fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                You dont get it. Watch him fight left handers. Its not a SLUG FEST.

                Just because hes walking forward doesnt mean hes Paul Williams. In the second round of the Shane fight he was boxing. From the 3rd on he walked him down and ****d him.
                Wait a minute here... you just said in your last post that PBF will drag him into a "fight." My perception of "fight" is that both fighters are exchanging punches... which if I'm not mistaken is a slug fest.

                He walked Shane down and "****d" him because Shane didn't let his hands go (for some odd reason). If Shane was actually letting his hands go, I seriously doubt PBF would have been able to walk him down the majority of the fight. I'm sure Shane planned on getting hit anyway, but for him to not let his hands go was inexcusable. Which is why I believe ****m was so pissed at him after the fight.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  That was my point. He wasnt letting his hands go because Floyd pout him on the defensive and he had ZERO clue as to what punch Floyd would throw. He just stood there shaking and flinching.
                  Do you honestly believe Pacquiao will just stand there and flinch for 10 rounds the way Mosley did? I don't even know how many punches Shane threw in the last 10 rounds, but I wouldn't be surprised if Pacquiao threw more punches in two rounds against Clottey than Shane threw in the last 10 against PBF.

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                    #29
                    FLOYD by decision 55%

                    Pac by ko/ tko 45%

                    too bad this will remain a ? till they will actually fight....

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by badass316
                      Wait a minute here... you just said in your last post that PBF will drag him into a "fight." My perception of "fight" is that both fighters are exchanging punches... which if I'm not mistaken is a slug fest.

                      He walked Shane down and "****d" him because Shane didn't let his hands go (for some odd reason). If Shane was actually letting his hands go, I seriously doubt PBF would have been able to walk him down the majority of the fight. I'm sure Shane planned on getting hit anyway, but for him to not let his hands go was inexcusable. Which is why I believe ****m was so pissed at him after the fight.

                      No there will be no slug fest. When I say drag Pac into a fight I mean Drag Pac into just HIM wanting to throw a bunch of punches when in reality due to the styles Pac should be the one moving and letting Floyd throw. When Floyd comes forward hes not trowing a million punches. Hes still smart about it.

                      Some odd reason?? How many times have you watched the fight? I saw it so many times I lost count. There was no odd reason. It was a clear reason. Shane has NO defense and Floyd exploited it. Shane had no idea what Floyd was going to throw. Shane has no defense for jabs or right hands and Floyd couldnt miss him.

                      I can easily say "If Clottey was actually letting his hands go, I seriously doubt PAC would have been able to walk him down the majority of the fight"

                      But that would be silly wouldnt it? Shane throwing more just wouldve got him countered more. And actually if you watch he did let his hands go nothing landed after the 2nd round. Clottey throwing more wouldve got him KO'd.

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