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  • #81
    Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
    cotto was having trouble with yuri foreman until he messed up his knee

    pacman will demolish cotto again if cotto is foolish enough to sign the contract
    You must of had a bad dream or something because the fight I watched Cotto dominated all of it with the exxeption of maybe the fourth round.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
      Gato was actually putting in work, rumors are Cotto dropped him out of the camp due to Gato going hard.
      ¿El Gato going hard? It was the oposite, the reason Cotto dropped him was cause he wasn't putting in the work & instead of sparring, El Gato was to busy showboating..That's why El Gato was talking **** saying that Foreman was not only going to beat Cotto, but that he was going to scholl him(That's how much El Gato knows)..Anyway El Gato is a bum, out of his last 3 fights he won a split decision to journey man Emanuel Agustus, got Knocked the *** out in 4 by Bailey(who Cotto KO'd in 6) & had a draw against some guy named Holloway...That's why Tomato Can Gato is trying to get back into olympic wrestling.....

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      • #83
        Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
        I think Miguel is misspeaking, he might be thinking a little too much about Manny's speed but I don't think it was the speed that destroyed Miguel that night, it was Manny constantly shifting off to the side and then throwing more punches while Miguel was too slow to turn and face Manny to protect himself. He didn't see the punches coming because Manny rarely stood face to face with Cotto that night. So basically it was Manny's awkward style that really did Cotto in, not specifically his speed

        I agree. It wasn't so much Manny's hand speed per se. In fact, it's never just Manny's hand speed that is devestating to his opponents. It's a combination of good hand speed, excellent lateral movement, and short quick bursts of punches, to go with a workrate and endurance that seem incredible to say the least.

        Floyd Mayweather has genuinely fast hands. He stands in front of people and from a dead stop pops boxers with good defense, who only end up seeing the punch once its on top of them. Manny has the same effect, except that Manny requires four punches to create the same "speed effect" (his straight, lead left is sometimes effective against some fighters). Floyd would be a better match for Cotto, if only because once he gets hit with the one punch, he knows that most likely 3-4 more are not coming right behind it from different angles.

        In the first fight, Cotto thought that hitting Pacquiao with his lead (as in the mineral) hands would slow him down. I thought that too. But it was not the case. If he's going to "box" Manny, he needs to learn to defend the angles and disrupt Manny's movement with timed shots that anticipate where Manny will land after attempting throw his combination.

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        • #84
          i prefer for cotto to fight floyd instead of pac, i'll give cotto 50-50 against floyd and i'm sure floyd would not demand the ost cause floyd will think that he could beat cotto.

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          • #85
            i prefer for cotto to fight floyd instead of pac, i'll give cotto 50-50 against floyd and i'm sure floyd would not demand the ost cause floyd will think that he could beat cotto.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
              i prefer for cotto to fight floyd instead of pac, i'll give cotto 50-50 against floyd and i'm sure floyd would not demand the ost cause floyd will think that he could beat cotto.
              you dont know ****..you arnt a boxing fan..just mannys **** boy always trying to **** on floyd

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              • #87
                the only person that can deal with pacmans speed is the flash. maybe superman.

                kenny bayless shoulda stopped the fight in the 9th when cotto busted out the michael jackson moonwalk

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  Would you be saying that if Arum wasn't a *** you racist bastard.
                  LOL. U mad brah? That's far from racist, dude. You know, it is possible that someone can be greedy, and not be ***ish. Talk about sensitive! And no, I'm not going to put together a list of P4P ATG's, in order to appease you, or anyone else on this forum for that matter. But IF I did, you can rest assured that ODH would rank somewhere in between #50-#75 like I stated beforehand.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by indystress View Post
                    why do the so called "experts" have to speak for cotto? it was so easy to see that cotto was not affected by the - 1 lb. yes, it was 1 lb not 2lbs. i say 1 lb because cotto's weigh-in weights in previous fights has been mostly at 146, not 147.

                    both cotto and delahoya said it wasnt the catch weight the reason for the lose to pacquiao, but the speed, yes, both cotto and delahoya couldnt deal with pac's speed...but yet you'll continue to hear the "so called experts" bring up the weight drain issue due to the catch weight...

                    as far as pac being the catch weight king, the catch weight against delahoya wasnt pacs fault, pac/delahoya had to meet somewhere, it just so happens that pac only had to add a couple of lbs, while delahoya had to come down about 10 lbs.

                    the catchweight against cotto, which took away only 1 lb from cotto's natural weigh-in weight of 146 is so highly exagerrated by anti pac fans. anti pac fan will continue to use that as an excuse while cotto said that it was pacs speed and not the weight.

                    also, i dont think a catchweight will be necessary against cotto because cotto's weigh in weight and fight night weight for a jr middle fight will be basically the same...the same as what cotto'f fight nite weight was against pac.
                    while i dont disagree with the majority of your post, i do think your off base by saying fighting oscar at 147 was a non issue. oscar had'nt fought at 147 in at least 7 years and per contract had to wt 147 on fight nite. this was a major disadvantage for DLH. he wasnt strong enough to defend him self. and his vaunted left hook was on empty. oscar was set up and he took the bait and got beat up for it.

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                    • #90
                      3 words!!!

                      3 words!!!

                      JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ!!!!


                      Everyone Knows MARQUEZ slapped manny pac around!!!!

                      thats why manny pac wont fight him!!!

                      MAX KELLERMAN, BOB POPPA and all the H.B.O. experts openly stated that they feel MARQUEZ won both fights!!! and bob arum has paid hefty fines for bribing boxing officials in the past!!! and thats a FACT!!!

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