Without the Pacquiao hate. Can anybody here deny Greatness to Freddie Roach?

[mathed]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he os training very talented guys to begin with and tweaking what needs to be tweaked.

I know the obvious accusations regarding Pac but I personally have seen a dramatic improvement in Manny's boxing abilities. He used to throw the left and that was his entire arsenal but now he slips, feints, moves in and out and ducks when he punches. His foot work is very impressive I think and if you watch his latest fights with some of his fights 8 years ago or so, it looks like a different guy in the ring.

I think that there is a reason why so many boxers want to be trained by him. Of course I'm ready for the Ariza's magic shakes reply as I'm sure that's what is really going on, lol.

[RubenSonny]

Floyd Sr.???

He brought Hatton to the mountains to train, taught him to look up the lights in round 2 and make him ponder on his career up to this point.

floyd sr is a great trainer.

[| THE KING |]

That's because some posters just jump at anything. I honestly thought you were like that at first. Not every critical point is negative. I thought the point here is to discuss things.

The point is as good as any trainer is, he must be able to get his fighter to beat their opponent. Roach has done wonders with Manny. But don't discount the fact that top rank and bob goodman are SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY to Murad Muhammad.

Agreed. Don't let my sig fool you.

[| THE KING |]

floyd sr is a great trainer.

Yes, he is a great trainer as well. He's just dumb as ****.

[123tyson123]

I'm gona say yes he is.

[Pacquiao'd]

hes a great match maker for picking fighters that arent 100%

[RubenSonny]

Yes, he is a great trainer as well. He's just dumb as ****.

Fair enough so is roach but both show ingenuity when it comes to boxing stategy. It particularly annoys me that on these threads he gets no credit for being a trainer.
peace

[RubenSonny]

hes a great match maker for picking fighters that arent 100%

did you read the thread title?

[thepower]

He's a very good trainer but an even better matchmaker

Having said that, I still think he is the best trainer of his generation.

[-Kev-]

He's definitely a great matchmaker, there's no doubt about that.