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  • Originally posted by shogunn View Post
    I never heard the demand for ring size before, but id like to see a link.

    but Manny "demanding" punchers gloves is ****in hilarious, considering he's "demanding" the same gloves he's always worn his entire career. Was he out of line in asking for the same gloves he's always worn....And, floyd always wears 8oz gloves. I dont see the problem


    Also, was floyd also planning in coming in overweight?
    Good post.. I don't understand what demands manny has made.

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    • I want to hear it from the horses mouth.......

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      • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
        good post, dont forget cassamayor or guzman or frietas. there are several others that have been duck by manny and roach. shane is another. but roach is no dummy. all manny's fights have been carefully planned and set up. thats why he fights guys at a catch wt or a wt they have'nt fought at in a LONG time. i think this fight will be made simply due to the shear amt of money involved. dont be suprised when the winner is floyd by late round stoppage.
        I wont be surprised because as good as Pacquiao is offensively, he's that much of a liability on the defensive end. ****, if you caught the announcement of the winner of the Pacquiao/CLottey fight, just by looking at the two fighters you would've thought Clottey won. Whenever Clottey through a punch, and there wasnt that many of them being thrown by him, he hit Pacquiao, the same as Cotto. I can see Manny giving him problems in the 1st half of the fight, just like Judah and Mosley did, but what seperates Mayweather from those 2 fighters is that I've seen Mayweather make adjustments. I have not seen the same from Manny. Better defense and overall ring generalmanship is why i favor manny. Manny does have a punchers chance though, i can admit that much.

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        • floyds gonna ask for 60/40 aka a duck move

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          • I just refuse to believe that Manny will take the tests up to the day of the fight.

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            • Originally posted by T.I. View Post
              Manny ducked those fighters you named? Doubt it.



              He paid Peanuts for the penalty. Reason for 10 mil penalty is to make sure Floyd doesn't cheat.



              That's your opinion.



              How is this Pacquiao's problem? Oscar picked on Manny. After the Oscar fight..Manny went from Cherrypicked to the Cherrypicker.

              Floyd made Marquez go up 2 divisions and still came over contracted weight.



              Manny never said that.. Roach did. To say pac is ducking is funny. Theres actually a video of Manny saying he would welcome a fight with mosley.

              Manny came up 7 divisions to fight bigger fighters and you say he's ducking certain fighters.. but it's your opinion though. Agree to disagree.
              its a well known fact even among pac fans that roach WILL NOT let pac fight shane. thats why you dont even see shanes name mentioned as a possible for a manny fight. roach knows that shane will ko pac. and if pac didnt duck all those fighters how come we never saw him face any of them?????? you contradict your self by your statement re,the 10 mil per pound issue. if we cry and say let NSAC do its job then lets say it all around.

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              • Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                He's talking about Floyd agreeing to fight Manny at WW in 8oz gloves when mandatory for that weight class is 10oz, unless both fighters agreed, Floyd agreed. Manny had an election in his native country and floyd agreed to work around that schedule if the fight was made. FLoyd also agreed to a 50-50 purse split then, and he agreed to Pay team pacquiao 10mil per pound if he came in a fraction over 147lbs. Floyd agreed to all this. TO me this sounds like somebody trying to make a fight, now it's Floyd's turn to let manny know what he wants, and the first and only request Manny sued him for, and 6 months later it's still an issue. So to the original poster your right this is a give and take, but i only see Floyd willing to give, and now that Manny got off his high horse and agrees to fight with a 14 day cut off, we expect mayweather to be a slave and come crawling back to the table. LMAO, IF manny wants this fight he's going to have to do some real soul searching and get his ego out of his ass, because honestly BOB ARUM,can care less if this fight gets made because if he can get 2 fighters two duke it out from his own stable, that'll be more money in Top Rank's pocket.

                Funny how after Mayweather beat Mosley, Arum flies down to the Phillippines to show manny some political support. A reporter asked him if he can talk about a potential mega fight between Pacquaio-Mayweather, his response was, "Im not going to get into negotiations with the media about the fight because he felt that that's exactly what ruined the fight the 1st time around. Now here is Mayweather's team taking the high road keeping quiet, and all i hear now is team pacquiao talking ****. 1st Arum himself came out a week later trying to discredit the testing procedure by stating that Mayweather/Mosley's last blood test was 18days prior. I heard he had a problem with Manny's friend's talking about the fight and he's doing the exact same ****, it's almost like their saying " You see fans, we've been saying we want to fight Mayweather since he beat Mosley. and because he's taking so long to give us a decision we're gonna have to fight Margarito just to keep Manny active.
                very good post. i agree 100%

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                • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                  its a well known fact even among pac fans that roach WILL NOT let pac fight shane. thats why you dont even see shanes name mentioned as a possible for a manny fight. roach knows that shane will ko pac. and if pac didnt duck all those fighters how come we never saw him face any of them??????
                  Ducked Shane, yet fought the man who beat shane in Cotto?


                  Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                  you contradict your self by your statement re,the 10 mil per pound issue. if we cry and say let NSAC do its job then lets say it all around.
                  Weight penatlies are apart of every contract. Floyd/Marquez had their own.. that's how Floyd avoided coming in overweight at the scales. He paid a penalty to make it go away..

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                  • Originally posted by T.I. View Post
                    Yes.. the ring size is standard. glove size is what floyd usually wears (even this past mosley fight.,. 8 oz)



                    I agree.



                    Why? The ring size agreed on is standard. The gloves are the usual gloves both fighters use at 147.. What is your argument here?



                    Ten mill per pound won't be an issue unless floyd decides to cheat the scales. Do you see floyd cheating the scales? It should be a non-issue. What demands did manny make again?
                    either you just refuse to try to understand that all things in a boxing match have to be agreed upon by both fighters= certain demands. or you are just trying to fool with me.

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                    • Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                      He's talking about Floyd agreeing to fight Manny at WW in 8oz gloves when mandatory for that weight class is 10oz, unless both fighters agreed, Floyd agreed.
                      What size gloves does Floyd fight with at 147? What size gloves did Floyd use against Mosley? 8 oz

                      Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                      Manny had an election in his native country and floyd agreed to work around that schedule if the fight was made.
                      What does that have to do with anything?

                      Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                      FLoyd also agreed to a 50-50 purse split then,
                      Obviously.. They are both ATG's at the top of the sport. They have both beaten past several opponents in dominating fashion. 50/50 is a no-brainer.

                      Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                      and he agreed to Pay team pacquiao 10mil per pound if he came in a fraction over 147lbs.
                      Floyd doesn't expect to come in overweight, so this is a non-issue. If he doesn't cheat there is no penalty.

                      Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                      Floyd agreed to all this. TO me this sounds like somebody trying to make a fight, now it's Floyd's turn to let manny know what he wants, and the first and only request Manny sued him for, and 6 months later it's still an issue. So to the original poster your right this is a give and take, but i only see Floyd willing to give, and now that Manny got off his high horse and agrees to fight with a 14 day cut off, we expect mayweather to be a slave and come crawling back to the table. LMAO, IF manny wants this fight he's going to have to do some real soul searching and get his ego out of his ass, because honestly BOB ARUM,can care less if this fight gets made because if he can get 2 fighters two duke it out from his own stable, that'll be more money in Top Rank's pocket.
                      What? Manny is willing to compromise and agree to terms Floyd had set forth.. What's the problem?


                      Originally posted by jayhova29 View Post
                      Funny how after Mayweather beat Mosley, Arum flies down to the Phillippines to show manny some political support. A reporter asked him if he can talk about a potential mega fight between Pacquaio-Mayweather, his response was, "Im not going to get into negotiations with the media about the fight because he felt that that's exactly what ruined the fight the 1st time around. Now here is Mayweather's team taking the high road keeping quiet, and all i hear now is team pacquiao talking ****. 1st Arum himself came out a week later trying to discredit the testing procedure by stating that Mayweather/Mosley's last blood test was 18days prior. I heard he had a problem with Manny's friend's talking about the fight and he's doing the exact same ****, it's almost like their saying " You see fans, we've been saying we want to fight Mayweather since he beat Mosley. and because he's taking so long to give us a decision we're gonna have to fight Margarito just to keep Manny active.

                      Team Pacquiao is a bunch of morons..

                      Let's get this fight on already.. **** the PURSE.

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