Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather Fight Will Happen

[j.one]

Ok Freddie...

[V.WEBB]

Ring size = standard 20x20

Gloves = 8 oz (mayweathers usual gloves)

10 mil/plty = Floyd did not abide by the contract and came in overweight vs. marquez. Do you see Floyd cheating the scales? If not, there should be no issues

For the 4502038035th time, the Commission handles the weight penalties. But Floyd didn't have a problem accepting when Manny wanted to go above the Commission.

[shogunn]

manny asked for a certain ring size, certain gloves(punchers gloves) and a ten million PER pound penalty for every round over wt. and floyd agreed to ALL those demands. and in truth team pac agreed to the ost and then back off. so my point to you was in any negotiation you have to give and take. but team pac only wanted to take and take. all this let the NSAC do its job is crap. the NSAC is responsible for penalizing fighters for being over wt. but no one is calling pac out for that why? if floyd is the bad guy for adking for ost, why is pac not the bad guy for asking for the outrageous amt of 10 mil per pound over wt?

I never heard the demand for ring size before, but id like to see a link.

but Manny "demanding" punchers gloves is ****in hilarious, considering he's "demanding" the same gloves he's always worn his entire career. Was he out of line in asking for the same gloves he's always worn....And, floyd always wears 8oz gloves. I dont see the problem


Also, was floyd also planning in coming in overweight?

[mrjoeblive]

Ring size = standard 20x20

Gloves = 8 oz (mayweathers usual gloves)

10 mil/plty = Floyd did not abide by the contract and came in overweight vs. marquez. Do you see Floyd cheating the scales? If not, there should be no issues

ring size and gloves have to be chosen by the fighters before the fight. in the first fight with morales, pac said he lost because the gloves were like pillows. so all these items have to be agreed upon. floyd could have asked for a bigger ring or diff. gloves. the point is manny asked for certain things and his demands were met. and asking for ten mil. per pound over wt is still crazy. but all his demands were met. so do you still think floyd was weak for agreeing to all that manny asked for?

[| THE KING |]

yes in truth manny did duck all those fighters and more.

Manny ducked those fighters you named? Doubt it.

while floyd did not meet the catch wt reqs he paid the price.

He paid Peanuts for the penalty. Reason for 10 mil penalty is to make sure Floyd doesn't cheat.

floyd fought oscar at 154 and beat him. at 154 oscar would have beat pac IMO.

That's your opinion.

like freddie roach is no dummy, as part of the deal, oscar had to wt 147 on fight night. this prevented him from re-hydrating and left him weak and very tired.

How is this Pacquiao's problem? Oscar picked on Manny. After the Oscar fight..Manny went from Cherrypicked to the Cherrypicker.

Floyd made Marquez go up 2 divisions and still came over contracted weight.

roach said if they fought shane they wanted the fight at 140. shane said ok!!!!! and roach said, not going to happemn. your just too good for my guy. i've said several times pac ducked lots of fighters and yet he has a take on all fighters tag per the boxing media. why is that ?

Manny never said that.. Roach did. To say pac is ducking is funny. Theres actually a video of Manny saying he would welcome a fight with mosley.

Manny came up 7 divisions to fight bigger fighters and you say he's ducking certain fighters.. but it's your opinion though. Agree to disagree.

[jayhova29]

What demands are you talking about?

He's talking about Floyd agreeing to fight Manny at WW in 8oz gloves when mandatory for that weight class is 10oz, unless both fighters agreed, Floyd agreed. Manny had an election in his native country and floyd agreed to work around that schedule if the fight was made. FLoyd also agreed to a 50-50 purse split then, and he agreed to Pay team pacquiao 10mil per pound if he came in a fraction over 147lbs. Floyd agreed to all this. TO me this sounds like somebody trying to make a fight, now it's Floyd's turn to let manny know what he wants, and the first and only request Manny sued him for, and 6 months later it's still an issue. So to the original poster your right this is a give and take, but i only see Floyd willing to give, and now that Manny got off his high horse and agrees to fight with a 14 day cut off, we expect mayweather to be a slave and come crawling back to the table. LMAO, IF manny wants this fight he's going to have to do some real soul searching and get his ego out of his ass, because honestly BOB ARUM,can care less if this fight gets made because if he can get 2 fighters two duke it out from his own stable, that'll be more money in Top Rank's pocket.

Funny how after Mayweather beat Mosley, Arum flies down to the Phillippines to show manny some political support. A reporter asked him if he can talk about a potential mega fight between Pacquaio-Mayweather, his response was, "Im not going to get into negotiations with the media about the fight because he felt that that's exactly what ruined the fight the 1st time around. Now here is Mayweather's team taking the high road keeping quiet, and all i hear now is team pacquiao talking ****. 1st Arum himself came out a week later trying to discredit the testing procedure by stating that Mayweather/Mosley's last blood test was 18days prior. I heard he had a problem with Manny's friend's talking about the fight and he's doing the exact same ****, it's almost like their saying " You see fans, we've been saying we want to fight Mayweather since he beat Mosley. and because he's taking so long to give us a decision we're gonna have to fight Margarito just to keep Manny active.

[| THE KING |]

For the 4502038035th time, the Commission handles the weight penalties. But Floyd didn't have a problem accepting when Manny wanted to go above the Commission.

Because Floyd knew he wasn't going to cheat the scales. There should have been no issues here. Only people bringing up these issues are the fans.

[mrjoeblive]

I never heard the demand for ring size before, but id like to see a link.

but Manny "demanding" punchers gloves is ****in hilarious, considering he's "demanding" the same gloves he's always worn his entire career. Was he out of line in asking for the same gloves he's always worn....And, floyd always wears 8oz gloves. I dont see the problem


Also, was floyd also planning in coming in overweight?

if we are going to use the "let the NSAC do its job" for the ost the point is. then let the NSAC do its job for the wt issue. if its good for one its good for all. and manny said he lost to morales due to the gloves morales chose for the fight. glove size has to be chose before the fight and agreed upon by both fighters. you will never see two fighters wearing different glove sizes. so thats why glove size and ring size has to be agreed upon by both fighters and is a standard in negotiations.

[johncods]

Let's see how floyd wiggles his way out when pac really calls his bluff. I bet he'll retire again.

[| THE KING |]

ring size and gloves have to be chosen by the fighters before the fight.

Yes.. the ring size is standard. glove size is what floyd usually wears (even this past mosley fight.,. 8 oz)

in the first fight with morales, pac said he lost because the gloves were like pillows. so all these items have to be agreed upon.

I agree.

floyd could have asked for a bigger ring or diff. gloves. the point is manny asked for certain things and his demands were met.

Why? The ring size agreed on is standard. The gloves are the usual gloves both fighters use at 147.. What is your argument here?

and asking for ten mil. per pound over wt is still crazy. but all his demands were met. so do you still think floyd was weak for agreeing to all that manny asked for?

Ten mill per pound won't be an issue unless floyd decides to cheat the scales. Do you see floyd cheating the scales? It should be a non-issue. What demands did manny make again?