Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather Fight Will Happen

[mrjoeblive]

You're just rambling. You state Manny ducked Mosley (prove it)... I think you are being silly. It's my opinion and that's yours. Manny fought the man who beat shane, cotto (fact).

Did you see the Mayorga/Mosley fight. Mosley did not look too great against a past prime Mayorga. He Ko'd Mayorga in the final round.



Mayweather came in overweight in the Marquez fight..

But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

"We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4485941

im going to make this real simple for you. floyd would not have to pay a fine to the NSAC for the JMM fight because the fight was a ww fight, he came in at 146lbs they had an agreed upon wt of 144 so he had to pay a fine of 600k to JMM . the ww limit is 147 by the way so how would he have to pay a fine to NSAC?

[Russian Crushin]

10 million per pound is unprecedented.

Penalty:Some other form of punishment, such as a fine or forfeit for not fulfilling a contract


So if Floyd Fulfills the contract and doesnt weigh over, then that penalty has absolutly no affect

It is a punishment for breaking a rule, so if he doesnt break the rule then there is no penalty

[AllEyesOpen]

Bully tactics don't work with someone who has as much pull/star power as you do. But now compromises are coming and maybe Manny wants to clear his name? Though I do wish for full implementation into the sport with testing throught the year 24/7.

I wouldn't call it bully tactics, only way that works is if Mayweather knew Pac was going to refuse. All i'm saying is there would be no doubt about Pac's ability or dedication simply because the Mayweather's were talking ****, it was Pac and his team's reaction to these, if he had brushed it off as a just an attemp at ducking him and accepted as he is now, the fight would have happened or Mayweather would have been exposed for not wanting the fight.

[| THE KING |]

im going to make this real simple for you. floyd would not have to pay a fine to the NSAC for the JMM fight because the fight was a ww fight, he came in at 146lbs they had an agreed upon wt of 144 so he had to pay a fine of 600k to JMM . the ww limit is 147 by the way so how would he have to pay a fine to NSAC?

he came in at 146lbs they had an agreed upon wt of 144 so he had to pay a fine of 600k to JMM .

I agree! In contracts there may be weight penalties.. like this. They had a stipulation, just as Manny added a stipulation about the weight.

[| THE KING |]

I wouldn't call it bully tactics, only way that works is if Mayweather knew Pac was going to refuse. All i'm saying is there would be no doubt about Pac's ability or dedication simply because the Mayweather's were talking ****, it was Pac and his team's reaction to these, if he had brushed it off as a just an attemp at ducking him and accepted as he is now, the fight would have happened or Mayweather would have been exposed for not wanting the fight.

Agreed. Let's see Manny pass that test. Just want that fight man.

[V.WEBB]

Penalty:Some other form of punishment, such as a fine or forfeit for not fulfilling a contract


So if Floyd Fulfills the contract and doesnt weigh over, then that penalty has absolutly no affect

It is a punishment for breaking a rule, so if he doesnt break the rule then there is no penalty

You are correct, however, the Commission ALREADY has penalties in place. Why is Manny going ABOVE them and implementing his own?

[boxing2106]

this is good news ! hope it gets made im already picturing the hype when the 2 fighters are in thier dressing rooms warming up during the star spangle banner

[mrjoeblive]

haha, do you even know what happened about the glove situation with Morales in teh 1st fight? find that answer first


and, arguing about this is dumb. 1st you said Manny "demanded" 8oz gloves, and mayweather bowed in. Thats clearly not the case at all since floyd always wore 8oz gloves.

The point is, IF floyd requested 10oz gloves in the first place then clearly he was being a little girl in negotiations since he never wore 10oz gloves except for 1 fight, and HE COMPLAINED about them. so why request them if he doesnt prefer them? just because Manny didnt want them? . You see this as floyd not getting what he wants and that concerns you more than anything.

hey buddy why dont you school me? i watched the eric vs manny fight with my phillipino friends and was mad that he lost. i clearly rember pac saying the gloves were like pillows and he couldnt hit eric with the force he wanted to. all the i was weakened by the blood draw came up tears later. so if you have more info, school me, enlighten me, help me.

[maguirre]

Lets just get this fight signed!.. Call his bluff and see Floyd in that ring.

This is the big difference between a Pac fan and a *****. A Pac fan is dying to see the fight and hopes Manny agrees to everything the Fraud wants. A ***** is a certified ****riding creature who is terrified for his idol. A ***** even suggests what Fraud should get in the purse split and a no cutoff bs. This to a clean fighter the crackhead accused of cheating.

[mrjoeblive]

Agreed. Let's see Manny pass that test. Just want that fight man.

for the record i want to see this fight also. i think everybody on the scene want to see this fight. we just like talking trash about our fighters.