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  • MurderDeathKill
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    #11
    Roach is a trainer. Ariza is a conditioning guy. Roach handles the boxing part, Ariza handles the nutrition part. Those guys are good at what they do so it's understandable for guys they work with to produce results. But they couldn't turn an absolute garbage fighter into a dominant champion. The onus is always on the guy in the ring to make things happen for himself, no matter how much credit goes to his team.

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    • 'Sugar' Freddi
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      #12
      They are just that good. Simple as that.

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      • MexicanMauler
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        #13
        They feed him the Wild Card secret formula

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        • Ray*
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          #14
          Originally posted by -Kevin-
          Are they better managers than actual trainer/conditioning coaches and they pick the right fights to make their clients look like they went through a transformation?

          Do they own like a Hyperbolic Time Chamber in the Wild Card Gym?(The fighter goes in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to train for what feels like one year for them but in reality they were just in there for 1 day..so they get 1 year of training, in 1 day)

          Or can they really change any bum fighter and turn them in Top P4P material?

          I'm not hating, what do you guys think of the Roach and Ariza duo? serious question guys.
          One thing I like about Roach is he has more influence in the sort fighters we lets his fighter gets in their with, Great trainer but 85% of his work is done on paper, he picks the right opponents according to his fighters weakness and strong points... Ultimate cherrypicker he is.

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          • Vegan101
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            #15
            Originally posted by Ray*
            One thing I like about Roach is he has more influence in the sort fighters we lets his fighter gets in their with, Great trainer but 85% of his work is done on paper, he picks the right opponents according to his fighters weakness and strong points... Ultimate cherrypicker he is.
            *****s should not be allowed to use the words "cherry picker." It's like insulting their favorite fighter, Gayweather.

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            • Ray*
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              #16
              Originally posted by Vegan101
              *****s should not be allowed to use the words "cherry picker." It's like insulting their favorite fighter, Gayweather.
              True!!! "*****s" Need to patent the word "cherrypicker"

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              • F l i c k e r
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                #17
                Better trainers push fighters harder and expect them to perform at the highest level possible.



                I also find it ridiculous that there is no information on Ariza AT ALL on the net. He is supposedly a nutrtional/conditioning expert, obviously working with high profile athletes but has no website? Isn't even included on the Wild Card website. Something is odd with that dude and his special shakes.

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                • shogunn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                  Better trainers push fighters harder and expect them to perform at the highest level possible.



                  I also find it ridiculous that there is no information on Ariza AT ALL on the net. He is supposedly a nutrtional/conditioning expert, obviously working with high profile athletes but has no website? Isn't even included on the Wild Card website. Something is odd with that dude and his special shakes.
                  WRONG...

                  His nutritionist is Teri Tom, who created Manny and Amir Kahns Diet. Also andrei arlovski... Look her up

                  Theres books from her that has their training regiments and Manny's calories intake in detail. Ive read one of them and am convinced there isnt a "special shake" like most illiterate ******s in here tend to believe.

                  If you floyd groupies took the time and effort to research their work you probably wouldnt be so close minded and confused about things you dont understand.

                  But then again..you guys are who you are

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                  • F l i c k e r
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by shogunn
                    WRONG...

                    His nutritionist is Teri Tom, who created Manny and Amir Kahns Diet. Also andrei arlovski... Look her up

                    Theres books from her that has their training regiments and Manny's calories intake in detail. Ive read one of them and am convinced there isnt a "special shake" like most illiterate ******s in here tend to believe.

                    If you floyd groupies took the time and effort to research their work you probably wouldnt be so close minded and confused about things you dont understand.

                    But then again..you guys are who you are

                    I didn't fucking know. I never said **** about anything. So why are you going all crazy?

                    I commented on ARIZA. Not pacquiao, khan, chavez jr. So you getting all crazy for nothing. You need to relax.


                    So fuck you. You are who you are.

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                    • shogunn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                      I didn't fucking know. I never said **** about anything. So why are you going all crazy?

                      I commented on ARIZA. Not pacquiao, khan, chavez jr. So you getting all crazy for nothing. You need to relax.


                      So fuck you. You are who you are.
                      who's getting crazy? and you mentioned ariza and the wild card gym, but not pacquaio. haha. I have no idea why I mentioned pacquaio when talking of ariza and wild card. my bust...

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