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  • King Ju-Ju
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    #31
    I get every1's frustration with Arum but Bradley is not ppv material, has no real fan support and he isn't even as good as you all think. Alexander would kick his ass, that's why he doesn't want it with him. So would Victor Ortiz. Maidana would be outclassed but will **** him with his power punches and that would give him the edge over Bradley. Pacquiao vs Margarito is horrible for the sport, unless your Mexican. Pacquiao vs Cotto would be a very hard sell considering the dud Miguel dropped in the 1st fight. At this point, Manny vs Floyd is the only fight for either man that we wouldn't argue about seeing. Besides, Pacquiao would destroy Bradley.
    Last edited by King Ju-Ju; 06-24-2010, 11:00 AM.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #32
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      Promoter Bob Arum said last week on BoxingScene.com that he doesn't think there would be any real money in a fight between welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao and junior welterweight champ Timothy Bradley should a fight not get made between Pacquiao and Mayweather.

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      both guys make valid points.

      bradley doesn't bring enough money the table. but clottey didn't bring much money to the table either and he still got a shot at pac.

      but shaw is wrong when he says bradley is bigger than clottey. clottey beat up diego (RIP), lost a close fight to margo and cotto. bradley hasn't had the same kind of exposure and Arum is right, that's because shaw didn't promote him as well as he should have.

      what shaw and bradley need to do is beat alexander and khan, then he will be a much better and bigger draw for a pac fight.

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      • onechance87
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        #33
        Originally posted by Deevel916
        One question. What has Margarito done to deserve a crack at Pac? He got the snot beat out of him by Mosley and got caught attempting to cheat in the process, and beat an unknown in Mexico. How is that deserving to have a crack at the pfp#1?

        I'd rather see Pac vs Saul Alvarez in Mexico to continue his Mexican domination.
        Margarito has done nothing to derserve a fight with manny.I agree with
        that,But i wouldint mind seeing it,If it gets made.

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        • Arthas
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          #34
          It's like saying Floyd should fight Devon Alexander. This time I have to agree with Arum even though he is a piece of ****.
          I believe Floyd-Cotto and Pac-Mosley should happen if Pac-Floyd can't get done.


          PS: Margacheato's name shouldn't be mentioned in any discussion about real fights. He should fight Garcia type fighters in Mexico.
          Last edited by Arthas; 06-24-2010, 11:07 AM.

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          • slindee3
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            #35
            Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua
            I get every1's frustration with Arum but Bradley is not ppv material, has no real fan support and he isn't even as good as you all think. Alexander would kick his ass, that's why he doesn't want it with him. So would Victor Ortiz. Maidana would be outclassed but will **** him with his power punches and that would give him the edge over Bradley. Pacquiao vs Margarito is horrible for the sport, unless your Mexican. Pacquiao vs Cotto would be a very hard sell considering the dud Miguel dropped in the 1st fight. At this point, Manny vs Floyd is the only fight for either man that we wouldn't argue about seeing. Besides, Pacquiao would destroy Bradley.
            That 'you' won't argue about seeing. Most real boxing fans don't believe this Floyd/Pac is going to happen. So in the absence of that fight who should Pac fight? You said that Bradley has no fan support, did Clottey? They're not going to put Pac in there with a boxer, they want to hold on to the hype as long as possible.

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            • viperz007
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              #36
              i personally think arum is just so bad at match making :/

              but i agree on him with pacquiao - bradley

              wat the heck is bradleys promoter wishing for? his dreamin big already
              bradley needs to fight his rival first(devon alexander) b4 he dreams big
              and wat the heck he jumps into welterweight then wanting to face pacquiao?
              that kids is wishing for money im seeing an imitation of floyd in him already...

              if he wants to fight pac he should fight cotto, clottey, margaritto first to prove he is worthy to face pacquiao...
              and his promoter compared him to clottey?
              clottey is the toughest opponent at welterweight division
              fight clottey kid and youll know how tough clottey is

              keep dreamin kid coz thats not gonna happen the way u dreamt it LOL

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              • cortdawg25
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                #37
                Originally posted by WESS
                Like I said they would fight (cherry picked bum) Clottey but not Timothy Bradley?

                Yet people blame Mayweather for the fight against Pac not happening when clearly we know Arum wants his guys fighting his own guys. We also know that team Pac (Arum) is hard to deal with when talking money split. Hatton, Hoya and now Mayweather again are all fights or attempted fights that had issues during negotiations due to money.

                Yet people love to blame Mayweather. Remember Mayweather agreed to 50%, Pac still didn't want the fight at that point. He ran to fight in court along the time line that Freddie Roach was quoted saying "Pac isn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather".

                Mayweather also made it very clear that he wouldn't accept 50% if Pac decided he couldn't make that kind of money anywhere else and wanted to attempt to make the fight again. Why Pac lost all leverage when he "cherry picked" Clottey (who).

                So Team Pac will fight Clottey but not undefeated, unexposed Bradley?

                Tell me: What fighter has Pac fought that didn't come off a loss, or didn't look bad in there previous fight, or was even a champion?
                People love to blame Mayweather..... Team Pac's cherry picking and attempts to walk (duck) away from fights due to money...
                that's what I have been saying....this is crazy to me and no one sees that. Besides JMM, all of these guys have lossed or looked bad priori to fighting Pacman!

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                • viperz007
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by cortdawg25
                  that's what I have been saying....this is crazy to me and no one sees that. Besides JMM, all of these guys have lossed or looked bad priori to fighting Pacman!
                  pacquiao been fighting opponents that people say got a chance to beat him and he is even the underdog..

                  and one more thing atleast its not pacquiao fault if u say his cherry picking its his promoter.. while mayweather is its his fault for cherry picking coz he is his own promoter lol

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                  • King Ju-Ju
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by slindee3
                    That 'you' won't argue about seeing. Most real boxing fans don't believe this Floyd/Pac is going to happen. So in the absence of that fight who should Pac fight? You said that Bradley has no fan support, did Clottey? They're not going to put Pac in there with a boxer, they want to hold on to the hype as long as possible.
                    Clottey has ZERO fan base, Pacquiao sold 700,000 in ppv buys all by himself. Floyds People seem not 2 realize that and Arum doesn't want 2 put him in there with any1 who won't bring more asses 2 the tv set. And as far as im concerned, Clottey has done more in losing 2 Cotto and Margarito compared 2 Bradley's best wins. He should worry about taking care of the 140 pounders cuz there are guys in that division that would put it on him. Pacquiao should fight Mayweather, if not then they both can retire and go **** themselves. Making the sport look worst then what it already is. The 2 best fighters in the world, in the same weight class can't agree 2 fight. Pathetic!!!!

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                    • pistol whip
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Deevel916
                      One question. What has Margarito done to deserve a crack at Pac? He got the snot beat out of him by Mosley and got caught attempting to cheat in the process, and beat an unknown in Mexico. How is that deserving to have a crack at the pfp#1?

                      I'd rather see Pac vs Saul Alvarez in Mexico to continue his Mexican domination.

                      Margarito was a two time welterweight champion thats all he needs. Tim has beat a couple contenders woo hoo.

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