The only chance i see Pacquaio having against Mayweather is..............

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    The only chance i see Pacquaio having against Mayweather is..............

    The only chance i see Pacquaio having against Mayweather is his unorthodoxy and his Southpaw stance, but thats as much in optimism than faith, see to me Mayweather likes to calculate everything he does in the ring, but in Boxing you cant always calculate how to deal with unorthodox fighters because they are exactly that, unorthodox, they dont make movements that the regular fighters make, so when your used to slipping a certain way to avoid punches, or try time them, it can be more difficult, plus Manny is left handed which Sr seems to think has been a problem for Mayweather. Pretty sure Forrest looked at Mayorga and thought it would be a routine defense.


    On the other side of the coin, you can throw a fighter off with your unorthodoxy for a while! but a lot of the time, sooner or later, usually the mid rounds, they start to get to grips with it and get your timing down, i remember this being the case for Whitaker in his fights with Gary Jacobs & Policarpo Diaz, having said that he(Whitaker) did get thrown off for most of the fight against both Rivera and Hurtado, admittedly past his best though, anyway!, back on subject, Pac fought JMM in 2008, its only 2010 now, yet look how close that fight was? its also concievable given Marquez results and performance since that fight that he may have been on the slide then, yet Manny still could not get a definitive result, although he did get the nod, he also showed me in that fight that you can cut down his activity by countering him as he seems to stop throwing when he starts getting countered, now fast foward to the Cotto fight and it seems as much as he has improved that he is still vulnerable to counter punches, Cotto controlled him early by countering him.


    With all that said it might suggest that the best way for Manny to fight Floyd would be to start fast and jump on him early, look to take him out, of coarse that might already be common knowledge but it does seem to point strongly in that direction, particularly as i believe Mayweather starts fights very tight and nervous, plus Manny should be able to land more against Mayweather than other opponents because! of his Southpaw stance, the dynamics changes when facing a lefty, particularly with the way Mayweather looks to avoid punches, which is bending into the power hand of a Southpaw.


    Did i forget to mention the considerable reach advantage for Mayweather?
    All in all i hope Pac busts his chops but i cant see it, hope im wrong.
    Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 06-24-2010, 08:21 AM.
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    what about the fact that pacquiao has landed bombs and hurt everyone he's fought, including the fight he lost against morales and against marquez

    how long will floyd be able to last without getting tagged by a big shot?
    or is floyd gonna be in a shell for 12 rounds

    pacquiao now counters counters

    floyd wont discourage manny, pacquiao will only get more agressive if he thinks he's losing, the guy is a serious warrior

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    • Versatility
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      #3
      Originally posted by Levesta
      what about the fact that pacquiao has landed bombs and hurt everyone he's fought, including the fight he lost against morales and against marquez

      how long will floyd be able to last without getting tagged by a big shot?
      or is floyd gonna be in a shell for 12 rounds

      pacquiao now counters counters

      floyd wont discourage manny, pacquiao will only get more agressive if he thinks he's losing, the guy is a serious warrior
      pacquiao will counter floyd

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        #4
        Originally posted by Versatility
        pacquiao will counter floyd
        floyd isn't a god, wake up
        pac countered marquez, cotto and hatton

        you think he can't counter floyd?

        jesus christ

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          That's part of the reason I would pick Pacquiao in a fight with Floyd, along with the fact that I just think Pacquiao would respond better to being in a fight with a guy that can neutralize his strengths. Floyd hasn't been in the ring with someone with Pacquiao's speed, power, and determination and I question his ability to respond when Pacquiao doesn't just go away.

          It truly is a 50-50 fight to me, too bad they are both pricks and won't get the fight made.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Levesta
            what about the fact that pacquiao has landed bombs and hurt everyone he's fought, including the fight he lost against morales and against marquez

            how long will floyd be able to last without getting tagged by a big shot?
            or is floyd gonna be in a shell for 12 rounds

            pacquiao now counters counters

            floyd wont discourage manny, pacquiao will only get more agressive if he thinks he's losing, the guy is a serious warrior

            He could hurt Mayweather, i think he will certainly hit him more than he has been hit before.

            Thats why i have a bad feeling Mayweather will stop him, Mayweather is a % fighter, the more you press, the more offense you force outta him.

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            • killacash
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              #7
              Only thing I can think of right now that Pac can catch him with is the right hook. Corley hurt him with and now Mosley hurt him with it. He better fix that **** soon in sparring.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                He could hurt Mayweather, i think he will certainly hit him more than he has been hit before.

                Thats why i have a bad feeling Mayweather will stop him, Mayweather is a % fighter, the more you press, the more offense you force outta him.
                yea, i can see some heavy shots snapping pacs head, but i can also see him working the left side of floyds body

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Levesta
                  floyd isn't a god, wake up
                  pac countered marquez, cotto and hatton

                  you think he can't counter floyd?

                  jesus christ

                  However he countered those guys when they pressed!! him, is he capable of countering off the front foot?

                  Marquez got nailed in the second fight because he felt he got jobbed in the first fight and so thought he needed to fight more aggressively imo.


                  Its noticeable that Cotto got countered when he decided to take it to Manny and become overly aggressive. Mayweather is the most patient fighter outside of Hopkins, plus he has a reach advantage.

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                  • killacash
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    He could hurt Mayweather, i think he will certainly hit him more than he has been hit before.

                    Thats why i have a bad feeling Mayweather will stop him, Mayweather is a % fighter, the more you press, the more offense you force outta him.
                    Exactly thats what counter punches do. Hatton came too hard and Mayweather had to stop him. Same with Joel Casamayor, Katsidis came too tough and Casamayor stopped that. When you become too aggressive, you leave yourself wide open for counters. So those in favor of Pac should not want him to become to aggressive and just maintain self control.

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