David Lemieux Really Owned Teddy Atlas On FNF

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  • La_Vibora
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    #31
    Originally posted by CarlosG815
    There is nothing impressive about Lemieux, IMO.

    His footwork is bad, he has bad hand speed, he takes shots from fighters that shouldn't land cleanly, his jab has zero crispness, he's not fast and he lacks killer instinct.

    He isn't making waves for a reason after what? 20 or 21 fights? 22? And no it's not because he's Canadian or whatever you racist fellow countrymen want to say, it's because everything I said above is true. Teddy knows more about boxing than anybody in this thread and if I can see it, I'm sure Teddy see's more than I.

    Omar Henry will absolutely emasculate him in the first 90 seconds, and take his head off in the next 60 seconds for a Round 1 KO.

    Lacks killer instinct? Granted that I haven't seen much of Lemieux's fight outside of 2 of them, but the guy has 22 KOs in 23 fights. Hard to see where this assertion that Lemieux lacks killer instinct comes from, so what exactly are you basing that off of?

    With that said, there was a fighter back in the late 40's that had decided to become a boxer after serving in the army. When he first went to the boxing gym to train, the trainer there told him to just go home to be with his family because he was too small, too slow, and lacked the footwork/technique to make it as a pro fighter. That fighter went on not only to become heavyweight champion, but he also would retire with a record of 49-0 to become the first and only undefeated Heavyweight champion to go out on top.

    Now I am not saying he is the next Marciano or anything close to it, but I have heard this story before about a fighter being too small, too slow, etc to become anything special. Sometimes having a pumping heart, toughness, and a thing called "will" will take you places.
    Last edited by La_Vibora; 06-15-2010, 09:41 PM.

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    • deanrw
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      #32
      His footwork needs some work, but I disagree with him being "slow". He may not be lightning fast, but he seems to have decently quick mitts IMO. Also, Lack of Killer intinct? Give me a break! Please show me an example where he lacks killer instinct.

      He needs to be moved slowly. Keep him active with some fringe guys for a couple more fights then step up slowly. Place him in with some mobile guys that will give him some differeny looks. We will then know where he stands.

      As for now, he seems like a damn good prospect. He may or may not make to to the top, but he is still great fun to watch.

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      • killacash
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        #33
        Originally posted by deanrw

        He needs to be moved slowly. Keep him active with some fringe guys for a couple more fights then step up slowly. Place him in with some mobile guys that will give him some differeny looks. We will then know where he stands.
        What the hell you mean slowly as if 23 fights against complete bums isnt slow enough. You want him to face more trashcans that he obviously aint learning nothing from. He already went 10 rounds once. So its time for him to step it up.

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        • Chunk..
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          #34
          This was the first time i saw David Lemieux, and he closed the show well enough. He was landing left hooks for fun.

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          • Taranazan
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            #35
            Originally posted by killacash
            What the hell you mean slowly as if 23 fights against complete bums isnt slow enough. You want him to face more trashcans that he obviously aint learning nothing from. He already went 10 rounds once. So its time for him to step it up.
            Some fighters have 250-300 amateur fights, but Lemieux doesn't. And he's only 21.

            If he went for a world title right now and got beaten, you would probably be the first to discredit him and call him a bum. No wonder his team doesn't want to take the risk.

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              #36
              Originally posted by killacash
              What the hell you mean slowly as if 23 fights against complete bums isnt slow enough. You want him to face more trashcans that he obviously aint learning nothing from. He already went 10 rounds once. So its time for him to step it up.
              He is still a kid. He just took a step up and they should keep him there for a while. He only turned pro 3 years ago. He still needs things to work on like leaving himself open when throwing punches. He needs to work on his Jab more and simply tweak. Most of all he needs experience. He needs a couple seasoned guys who can extend him some. He needs that to learn his craft. He never learned jack **** from the Ayala fight. that is Ayala's fault though for trading. He would have been a great learning experience for Lemieux if he would have fought a smarter fight. He would have lasted some against Lemieux in there.


              To put it another way. He has fought a total of 52 professional rounds. How quickly should he be thrown in with the wolves? He needs some more mileage in the tank. Why throw the kid in with the wolves when he is still Green?
              Last edited by deanrw; 06-15-2010, 11:06 PM.

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              • killacash
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                #37
                Originally posted by Taranazan
                Some fighters have 250-300 amateur fights, but Lemieux doesn't. And he's only 21.

                If he went for a world title right now and got beaten, you would probably be the first to discredit him and call him a bum. No wonder his team doesn't want to take the risk.
                You right I would call him a bum but at the same time I NEVER said for him to go for a world title. I just said step up that comp and dont give me that crap about amateur fights cause its plenty of fighters with low fights in amateurs that won titles.. Also David won won the Canadian Amateur Championship three times so it aint like he doesnt have an amateur background.

                Originally posted by deanrw
                He is still a kid. He just took a step up and they should keep him there for a while. He only turned pro 3 years ago. He still needs things to work on like leaving himself open when throwing punches. He needs to work on his Jab more and simply tweak. Most of all he needs experience. He needs a couple seasoned guys who can extend him some. He needs that to learn his craft. He never learned jack **** from the Ayala fight. that is Ayala's fault though for trading. He would have been a great learning experience for Lemieux if he would have fought a smarter fight. He would have lasted some against Lemieux in there.


                To put it another way. He has fought a total of 52 professional rounds. How quickly should he be thrown in with the wolves? He needs some more mileage in the tank. Why throw the kid in with the wolves when he is still Green?
                Apologies on how I replied to you firstly. You right but he is with Russ Abner, he should of thought on fixing those habits instead of making a highlight reel for espn. I dont want to put him in the same category as Shawn Porter. Cause Porter looks the same from his early fights to now and its lookin the same for this guy.
                Last edited by killacash; 06-16-2010, 12:05 AM.

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                • Eusebio
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                  #38
                  Atlas is like a negative broken record. Why would he downplay a fighter in the beginning of a fight that he is broadcasting? Doesn't he want people watch the ESPN Broadcast? Not that anyones really listening to what he's saying though.

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