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    #261
    Originally posted by Castenada Jr.
    and if you still don't think cotto was babied and protected take a look at his tune up fights for margarito fight and look at tony's fights

    first planned fight in 07

    Margarito's tune up fight-Paul Williams
    Cotto's tune up fight-washed up judah

    Planned fight in 08

    margarito's tune up fight-kermit Cintron
    Cotto's tune up fight-Alphonso gomez

    Planned rematch in 09

    Margarito's tune up fight-Shane Mosley
    Cotto's tune up fight-Michael jennings


    anyone of margarito's fights would be considered very dangerous for cotto and yet here margarito is fighting them as "tune-ups"

    Look at cotto's tune ups for tony fights! If you seriously believe anything other than cotto has been a very protected fighter matched up extremely carefully then i don't know what to tell you.
    First of 07 is wrong. He had 3 fights in 07.

    And, I said he has had the best WW resume in a short period time in the last decade behind Margarito. So meaning Margarito WW run>Cotto. Doesn't mean Cotto was babied though.

    Look at Cotto first 20 fights in his first 3 years as a pro. Nothing babied about that. And, he also has faced every stytle stance and attributes that fighter could face. Is nothing babied about that.

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      #262
      Originally posted by Castenada Jr.
      do you realize you're kinda making my point that cotto was protected like a mutha? why wasn't the fight at 140 made again? Cotto had a shot at the wbc and a shot a floyd at the same time! Actually for once a shot to actually beat a title holder. Why wasn't it made again? by the time that fight was offered cotto had already beaten how many past or future champions again? at the time cotto had already beaten 6 of your past or future world champions. So surely he was ready right? NO thanks for proving my point those victories mean ****! cotto was and still is very overrated!
      When was the best time to make the fight?

      Had Cotto beaten a Judah yet at 140? What about a Mosley yet?

      Wouldn't the best time to make the fight be after he scored the biggest win of his career?

      Don't let the hate blind you.

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        #263
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        You don't have to look at 100 of fighters records. Is not that many active fighters who have beaten more passed, present, and future world champions.

        And, how could they have been has beens when Cotto fought them? When 9 of them went on to win championships after Cotto beat them. And, from the 3 that are left Clottey and Foreman were or should of been champs when Cotto beat them.

        The only guy you could of said was washed up was Cesar Bazan and that is it.

        So try again and thanks for playing. Learn something about the sport first.
        Idiot! I still can't believe here you are trying to hype of baily's, bazan's, ndous, corley's and paulies. you're a waste of time bro!!! everyone here knows the level of opponents these guys are. None of these guys have ANY WINS TO BRAG ABOUT and here you are hyping them up to feed your biased opinions.

        Biggest wins for each guy
        1. Cesar Bazan-no big wins. TKO'd by castillo, lost to stevi johnston and brusless
        2. Carlos Maussa-biggest win harris. also ko'd by ortiz and hatton
        3. Joshua Clottey-Biggest win????? judah? lol little chico?? lol
        4. Yuri Foreman-biggest win an old santos????
        5. Shane Mosley-HOFer
        6. Paul Malignaggi-Biggest win is vs a lightweight? killed by hatton and khan
        7. Lovemore N'dou-biggest win???? Lost against every decent fighter he faced
        8. Randall Bailey-old corley is his biggest win
        9. Demarcus Corley-biggest win??? went on to lose 6 of 8 after cotto
        10. Ricardo Torres-biggest win holt in which holt came back and ko'd in him in one rnd
        11. Carlos Quintana-biggest win at the time??? Julio lol went on to beat paul and then get ko'd in rnd 1 by paul
        12. Zab Judah-good fighter in his prime nothing close to it at time of cotto fight.






        so now that we've examined your 12 past or future champions they don't look so good do they? Cotto was built on hype and good match making and once again

        NEVER BEAT SOMEONE CONSIDERED A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER! NEVER!!!

        ALL TITLES WON VIA VACANT TITLE MATCHES.

        So go ahead keep pumping up cotto's vacant title wins.

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          #264
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          First of 07 is wrong. He had 3 fights in 07.
          nice try but margarito fought paul williams and cotto fought zab judah as pre fights before they were to meet in 07. Nice attempt though, it just failed.

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            #265
            Originally posted by Castenada Jr.
            Idiot! I still can't believe here you are trying to hype of baily's, bazan's, ndous, corley's and paulies. you're a waste of time bro!!! everyone here knows the level of opponents these guys are. None of these guys have ANY WINS TO BRAG ABOUT and here you are hyping them up to feed your biased opinions.

            Biggest wins for each guy
            1. Cesar Bazan-no big wins. TKO'd by castillo, lost to stevi johnston and brusless
            2. Carlos Maussa-biggest win harris. also ko'd by ortiz and hatton
            3. Joshua Clottey-Biggest win????? judah? lol little chico?? lol
            4. Yuri Foreman-biggest win an old santos????
            5. Shane Mosley-HOFer
            6. Paul Malignaggi-Biggest win is vs a lightweight? killed by hatton and khan
            7. Lovemore N'dou-biggest win???? Lost against every decent fighter he faced
            8. Randall Bailey-old corley is his biggest win
            9. Demarcus Corley-biggest win??? went on to lose 6 of 8 after cotto
            10. Ricardo Torres-biggest win holt in which holt came back and ko'd in him in one rnd
            11. Carlos Quintana-biggest win at the time??? Julio lol went on to beat paul and then get ko'd in rnd 1 by paul
            12. Zab Judah-good fighter in his prime nothing close to it at time of cotto fight.






            so now that we've examined your 12 past or future champions they don't look so good do they? Cotto was built on hype and good match making and once again

            NEVER BEAT SOMEONE CONSIDERED A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER! NEVER!!!

            ALL TITLES WON VIA VACANT TITLE MATCHES.

            So go ahead keep pumping up cotto's vacant title wins.
            lol really? I can do the same with Antonio Margarito resume

            Hell give me JCC resume give me Floyd resume give Pac resume give me whatever resume and I could do what you just did. Give me a name and I would pull that same type of bull****.

            Damn near every one of those 12 and future world champs that Cotto beat. Became champs after he beat them.

            You're contradicting yourself. You want to act like beating paper champs are a big deal and that Cotto has only beating one and that was Foreman. But, when I throw that same argument that damn near every one of those 12 champions became World champions after Cotto beat him. Is not like they were washed up. They became champs after.

            Again look at his first 20 fights in his first 3 years as a pro nothing babied about that. Then he also and went on to avenge losses he suffered in the amateurs. And, that dude didn't duck anybody in his career. And, before you say Floyd tell me when was the best time to make the fight?

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              #266
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              When was the best time to make the fight?
              your attempts of manipulating questions is hilarious! In other words he was protected from floyd and the fight was turned down. I mean in boxing who in the hell wants an opportunity to beat the best fighter in the world. I mean sheez why would anyone take that title shot especially against a name like floyd mayweather to put on your resume.

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                #267
                Originally posted by Castenada Jr.
                nice try but margarito fought paul williams and cotto fought zab judah as pre fights before they were to meet in 07. Nice attempt though, it just failed.
                umm Ok but Cotto had 3 fights in 07 did he not? And, who did Cotto fight after Judah? Who did Margarito fight after Williams?

                So who had the better year in 07?

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by Castenada Jr.
                  your attempts of manipulating questions is hilarious! In other words he was protected from floyd and the fight was turned down. I mean in boxing who in the hell wants an opportunity to beat the best fighter in the world. I mean sheez why would anyone take that title shot especially against a name like floyd mayweather to put on your resume.
                  What title shot? Cotto already had a title. Was Floyd the lineal champ?

                  Your lack of comprehension is hilarious. When was the best time to make the fight?

                  I already know your lack of knowledge. I have answered every one of your questions. you have yet to answer mines.

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    lol really? I can do the same with Antonio Margarito resume

                    Hell give me JCC resume give me Floyd resume give Pac resume give me whatever resume and I could do what you just did. Give me a name and I would pull that same type of bull****.

                    Damn near every one of those 12 and future world champs that Cotto beat. Became champs after he beat them.

                    You're contradicting yourself. You want to act like beating paper champs are a big deal and that Cotto has only beating one and that was Foreman. But, when I throw that same argument that damn near every one of those 12 champions became World champions after Cotto beat him. Is not like they were washed up. They became champs after.

                    Again look at his first 20 fights in his first 3 years as a pro nothing babied about that. Then he also and went on to avenge losses he suffered in the amateurs. And, that dude didn't duck anybody in his career. And, before you say Floyd tell me when was the best time to make the fight?
                    go ahead and rip these resumes of these current ww's

                    Magarito
                    paquiao
                    mosley
                    judah
                    mayweather

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                      #270
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      What title shot? Cotto already had a title. Was Floyd the lineal champ?

                      Your lack of comprehension is hilarious. When was the best time to make the fight?

                      I already know your lack of knowledge. I have answered every one of your questions. you have yet to answer mines.
                      you're so full of yourself and your belief that you are right is clouding your common sense. When you say : "when was the best time to make the fight"

                      you prove my point in showing cotto never took any dangerous fights until he fought Shane Mosley. Don't give me no ***en excuses as to why they turned the fight down! it just proves my point that cotto was protected and was not taking any fights that were dangerous for him.

                      and floyd was a world class fighter beating everyone at 130 and 135 and beating the current champ in gatti so for you to pretend like floyd wasn't nothing at 140 just shows how hard you're trying to defend your ****** posts.

                      In these arguments you've gone from hyping up corley's, maussa's,paulie's, bailey's and now you've gone to saying floyd wasn't anything at 140!

                      can people come in here and weigh in please because im tired of trying to expain to this guy corley's, maussa's and paulies, and bailey's, and pinto's don't make you great fighers.

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