If Floyd really believes Manny is using PEDS ....

[chris123jack]

Let's take Floyd being right on this one. Let's take Floyd's fans being right on this one. That is, Manny is on PEDs. Hey, why else would you ask Manny to take this test, right?


If Floyd, his dad, his camp and Golden Boys really believes Manny is using PEDS then why even take the fight? I mean, if Floyd doesn't take this fight straight up because he truly believes that Manny is on PEDs then why would he even want to fight Manny without PEDs? A Manny without PEDs then would not be Manny according to Floyd therefore this would be an embarrassing fight. A one sided fight GUARANTEED!

That for me would be just like Floyd fighting a Marquez. A total fraud of a fight. So if true about the PEDs then Floyd may end up having that same type of advantage as when he fought Marquez.

Who want that kind of a fight AGAIN? Floyd? Floyd's fans?

If Floyd is right, this is a fraud of a fight. Then we should ask Floyd, if you believe that Manny is on PEDs, then why fight Manny without the PEDs? What will that win prove except for exposing Manny? What's the point of this fraud of a fight and how it will reflect your own legacy?

Same question goes for you Floyd fans who think Manny is now a "su****ious" character or who is truly on PEDs. What is the point of being in these threads and asking for this fight if you think that Manny is on PEDs?

If I was Floyd, if I was those type of Floyd fans that are convinced that Manny is using PEDs, then I would NOT be wanting to see a Floyd vs Manny fight UNLESS Manny is not using PEDs, period!!!

So please answer: Should Floyd even be requesting this fight if he is so convinced that Manny is using PED?
Yes.... Please explain
No..... Please explain

You basically answered your own question, floyd didnt care about manny until people started saying that he was better than floyd.

[ADP02]

But, I think we do understand Manny's side, remember, he's changed his story so many times, flip flopping saying different things, if he was so hurt as you say by the statements, he could have simply showed the world that he is indeed a marvel, the rare specimen, able to do the things he's done in the ring. Yet, what he has done is augment the cloud of su****ion thats continued to thicken over him. Everyone Ive seen accused of taking something, those who had excuses were always found out later, Pac may just get away with it though.

Like I stated above, once you read and try to have an unbiased opinion of how Manny was put into a corner then you may think otherwise. One way to do it, is by having the same accusations against Floyd and Floyd would give his own version of the story. You may then have been more respectful about the comments brought forth.

Manny was accused by Floyd of being on PEDs yet he wants the fight to go on. Manny got possibly rattled, so words came out. Some can be perceived to be right, some more wrong. Still, if Manny felt the way he did and is innocent ...... you need to remember that it was Floyd's accusation that created this hoopla.

Also, Floyd always looks for an advantage. He may have also known, as we all do that, Manny doesn't like to have blood taken close to the fight.

[Bhopreign]

Like I stated above, once you read and try to have an unbiased opinion of how Manny was put into a corner then you may think otherwise. One way to do it, is by having the same accusations against Floyd and Floyd would give his own version of the story. You may then have been more respectful about the comments brought forth.

Manny was accused by Floyd of being on PEDs yet he wants the fight to go on. Manny got possibly rattled, so words came out. Some can be perceived to be right, some more wrong. Still, if Manny felt the way he did and is innocent ...... you need to remember that it was Floyd's accusation that created this hoopla.

Also, Floyd always looks for an advantage. He may have also known, as we all do that, Manny doesn't like to have blood taken close to the fight.

Wonder why nobody talks about the email anymore, it was reported on by a respectable journalist, I believe it existed/exists. Also if these allegations were against Floyd and he did the back and forth that Manny is doing, I was be questioning myself whether he's been on something. See thats the thing Ive seen between both fighter's fans, Floyd's are more rational and are fans of Manny, Manny's fans are not like this.

[ADP02]

You basically answered your own question, floyd didnt care about manny until people started saying that he was better than floyd.

I answered this with the line that followed:
"What's the point of this fraud of a fight and how it will reflect Floyd's own legacy?"

Floyd has already a big list of suspect opponents and has been suspect in carefully selecting these opponents, so that he has the advantage going into the fight. If proven, then it would just be another in his long list.

After November, Floyd may have just a few more good years left. If 100% convinced then he should move away from that and fight someone who isn't like that.........

[ChiTown2Diego]

Let's take Floyd being right on this one. Let's take Floyd's fans being right on this one. That is, Manny is on PEDs. Hey, why else would you ask Manny to take this test, right?


If Floyd, his dad, his camp and Golden Boys really believes Manny is using PEDS then why even take the fight? I mean, if Floyd doesn't take this fight straight up because he truly believes that Manny is on PEDs then why would he even want to fight Manny without PEDs? A Manny without PEDs then would not be Manny according to Floyd therefore this would be an embarrassing fight. A one sided fight GUARANTEED!

That for me would be just like Floyd fighting a Marquez. A total fraud of a fight. So if true about the PEDs then Floyd may end up having that same type of advantage as when he fought Marquez.

Who want that kind of a fight AGAIN? Floyd? Floyd's fans?

If Floyd is right, this is a fraud of a fight. Then we should ask Floyd, if you believe that Manny is on PEDs, then why fight Manny without the PEDs? What will that win prove except for exposing Manny? What's the point of this fraud of a fight and how it will reflect your own legacy?

Same question goes for you Floyd fans who think Manny is now a "su****ious" character or who is truly on PEDs. What is the point of being in these threads and asking for this fight if you think that Manny is on PEDs?

If I was Floyd, if I was those type of Floyd fans that are convinced that Manny is using PEDs, then I would NOT be wanting to see a Floyd vs Manny fight UNLESS Manny is not using PEDs, period!!!

So please answer: Should Floyd even be requesting this fight if he is so convinced that Manny is using PED?
Yes.... Please explain
No..... Please explain

Didn't even need to read anything beyond the thread title, Floyd does not really believe Manny is on any gear. It's all negotiation positioning

[ADP02]

Wonder why nobody talks about the email anymore, it was reported on by a respectable journalist, I believe it existed/exists. Also if these allegations were against Floyd and he did the back and forth that Manny is doing, I was be questioning myself whether he's been on something. See thats the thing Ive seen between both fighter's fans, Floyd's are more rational and are fans of Manny, Manny's fans are not like this.

Manny never said no to random urine testing and now we heard he brought down the blood testing to 14 days plus post fight testing. If you take into account these are called negotiations, you may finally accept the matter. We are on uncharted territory so you need to take this into account too.

Plus if you can believe DelaHoya's latest statement, they are closer than they ever were to getting this going.

[Bhopreign]

Manny never said no to random urine testing and now we heard he brought down the blood testing to 14 days plus post fight testing. If you take into account these are called negotiations, you may finally accept the matter. We are on uncharted territory so you need to take this into account too.

Plus if you can believe DelaHoya's latest statement, they are closer than they ever were to getting this going.

Unchartered for who? Not for some, they do this in the Olympics, so since Floyd was in the Olympics perhaps he's done it before. Why did Manny do it for the first Morales fight, can you answer that. If this hurt Manny so bad, why go after Floyd and not the journalist who said their was an email sent by Pac's camp saying if they did fail a test to go ahead with the fight for the good of boxing, if that wasnt true he would have no doubt gone after the New York Times, a huge newspaper, but no he didnt, he didnt go after ESPN nor Teddy Roach for bringing it up either. You guys know the truth.

[ADP02]

Didn't even need to read anything beyond the thread title, Floyd does not really believe Manny is on any gear. It's all negotiation positioning

I've said that too but it had been overblown to what it is now. That is, Manny has been accused by Floyd. That was a no no, if you ask me.

[ADP02]

Unchartered for who? Not for some, they do this in the Olympics, so since Floyd was in the Olympics perhaps he's done it before. Why did Manny do it for the first Morales fight, can you answer that.

It's uncharted for boxing. The present rules do not state this type of testing. That is what I meant. Floyd first accused Manny then told him to follow his way or the highway. Floyd and Manny could have handled things differently ..... without the accusations.

[Bhopreign]

It's uncharted for boxing. The present rules do not state this type of testing. That is what I meant. Floyd first accused Manny then told him to follow his way or the highway. Floyd and Manny could have handled things differently ..... without the accusations.

Why did Manny do testing for the first Morales fight? If this hurt Manny so bad, why go after Floyd and not the journalist who said their was an email sent by Pac's camp saying if they did fail a test to go ahead with the fight for the good of boxing, if that wasnt true he would have no doubt gone after the New York Times, a huge newspaper, but no he didnt, he didnt go after ESPN nor Teddy Roach for bringing it up either. You guys know the truth.