If Floyd really believes Manny is using PEDS ....

[Kingstan315]

They did it all wrong back then in the negotiations. If they agreed to something and told the media, we BOTH want to show the world that we are BOTH clean .....

but it was an accusation against Manny. That brought this into the wrong direction. Now it's about if Manny is on PEDs.

Point taken. see that was easy, and soon we may still have a fight to watch. I'm itching to book a flight to Vegas...

[Bhopreign]

I understand ... you just don't know how to answer, so you answer it the way you do....

Only because you answered what I meant wrong. Floyd believes Manny is on something, doesnt mean he's absolutely sure, he could be wrong, not like he's seen Manny shooting up, but he really really does believe he's been taking something.

[Bhopreign]

I just created a thead that mysteriously disappeared.

[ADP02]

I just created a thead that mysteriously disappeared.

I had that happen a couple of times too ..... the other day, I mysteriously was aloud to edit someone's post ...... imagine someone with that power!!!

[ADP02]

Only because you answered what I meant wrong. Floyd believes Manny is on something, doesnt mean he's absolutely sure, he could be wrong, not like he's seen Manny shooting up, but he really really does believe he's been taking something.

Well, you are getting closer to what I am saying. They are convinced that Manny's on PEDs but they naturally have no concrete proof.

[Pacquiao'd]

Well, you are getting closer to what I am saying. They are convinced that Manny's on PEDs but they naturally have no concrete proof.

there was no proof on shane either

[ADP02]

there was no proof on shane either

Shane is a very different story since he admitted to using it. So once you had that hand in the cookie jar, you should be assessed differently. Manny has been tested but never tested positive for anything.

Big difference!

[Bhopreign]

Well, you are getting closer to what I am saying. They are convinced that Manny's on PEDs but they naturally have no concrete proof.

But why would you need proof especially in this day and age to want someone to get tested. It should be the norm, should have been a long time ago. I didnt see this much commotion with him wanting Shane to take the test, I didnt hear a soul say Shane should tell Floyd to go jump off a bridge or anything, with Manny it seems his fans think he may be up to something, they are surprised themselves at the way he's acting, but since they cant stand Floyd they will back Manny no matter what.

[ADP02]

But why would you need proof especially in this day and age to want someone to get tested. It should be the norm, should have been a long time ago. I didnt see this much commotion with him wanting Shane to take the test, I didnt hear a soul say Shane should tell Floyd to go jump off a bridge or anything, with Manny it seems his fans think he may be up to something, they are surprised themselves at the way he's acting, but since they cant stand Floyd they will back Manny no matter what.

I answered it above. Shane had admitted to taking PEDs so Floyd asking for testing was sensible. I like Shane but I agree with that. See?

From Floyd's camp including Golden Boy, they are accusing Manny even without an iota of proof. This can ruin/embarrass a fighter's image even if he is clean. Once it comes out in the open, sometimes you can't put it back in the bottle. Manny was peeved at the way Floyd accused him and he reacted.

As I stated above, they could have done it differently. That is, agree to something like (JUST AN EXAMPLE) random urine testing and 18 days blood PLUS post fight testing of blood/urine and tell the media, we just want to prove to the world that we are clean and want to change the sport of boxing. Unfortunately, Floyd took another route and accused Manny. That's where the problem started.

You need to see and understand both sides of the story

[Bhopreign]

I answered it above. Shane had admitted to taking PEDs so Floyd asking for testing was sensible. I like Shane but I agree with that. See?

From Floyd's camp including Golden Boy, they are accusing Manny even without an iota of proof. This can ruin/embarrass a fighter's image even if he is clean. Once it comes out in the open, sometimes you can't put it back in the bottle. Manny was peeved at the way Floyd accused him and he reacted.

As I stated above, they could have done it differently. That is, agree to something like (JUST AN EXAMPLE) random urine testing and 18 days blood PLUS post fight testing of blood/urine and tell the media, we just want to prove to the world that we are clean and want to change the sport of boxing. Unfortunately, Floyd took another route and accused Manny. That's where the problem started.

You need to see and understand both sides of the story

But, I think we do understand Manny's side, remember, he's changed his story so many times, flip flopping saying different things, if he was so hurt as you say by the statements, he could have simply showed the world that he is indeed a marvel, the rare specimen, able to do the things he's done in the ring. Yet, what he has done is augment the cloud of su****ion thats continued to thicken over him. Everyone Ive seen accused of taking something, those who had excuses were always found out later, Pac may just get away with it though.