If Floyd really believes Manny is using PEDS ....

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  • Bhopreign
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    #21
    TS you need a dictionary, believing and knowing are two different things.

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    • ADP02
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      #22
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      TS you need a dictionary, believing and knowing are two different things.
      Nice try buddy..... there are degrees of belief.

      If we knew that Manny was once tested positive for PEDs then BOTH sides of his fan base would be in agreement, that he should take the tests at the very least. Or if it's a given that Manny won only due to PEDs, not have this fight at all.

      That is not the case here. Manny's never been tested. Manny's fans don't believe. Floyd and company are CONVINCED that Manny is on PEDs.

      What is happening here is that Floyd's camp have all admitted that they are CONVINCED that the only way that Manny could have done what he did is by using PEDs. When you hear them talk, they don't even have a doubt about it. They say it's OBVIOUSLY due to PEDs.

      They state it as if Manny on PEDs is the ONLY POSSIBILITY. The ONLY OPTION. No other way he could have won the way he did.

      Same goes with many of Floyd's fans now.... they have written so many posts that state Manny is on something
      - or else why is he hiding from being randomly tested.
      - Only way he can go from 106lbs to 147 and do what he did.
      - The only way a guy can KO guys now but not his early years.
      - How else can one beat guys bigger than him
      - That is why he looks like that (eg. big head .... )

      So you can say it's just a belief of theirs .... but it's not one of those 50/50 beliefs where there is some uncertainty in them. They are 100% CONVINCED......... possibly the best analogy would be those who believe strongly in God. They will tell you that their belief is a fact and they are convinced of it.

      That's where my question comes in. For those of you who are so convinced that Manny is on PEDs then why demand this fight?

      I think it's a fair question.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #23
        Originally posted by larryx2010
        shut the **** up with this recycled ass bull****..damn..we get 100 of these damn threads every ****ing day

        lol, you can't answer, so you just get mad instead.

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        • Kingstan315
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          #24
          I can't see why we want to ga at the same question from a diffrent angle, again and again and again. Anyway here we go.

          Nobody really knows for sure if Pac is really on PEDs, but if he is not there should be NO PROBLEM giving a little blood to show he is the man. I am not saying it's impossible for Pac to do what he has done without PEDs, In fact If he had agreed to OSDTs from the Beginning, It's unlikely anyone would have thought twice about it. I say that because I'm not sure it would have come out in the manner it did to the media. So when Pac refused to test, and I'm just speaking for me. It stirred intrest in me to research a little more about PEDs, I looked back at some of Pacs fights, in my opinion I feel that in the Diaz fight Pac was a diffrent animal. A monster if you will.

          Now he may have finally started to listen to Roach a little closer. Or he may have been better of since he didn't have to drain himself like he did for his first 50 fights. He can also be on some sort of PEDs or maybe Blood Doping I don't know. None of us know for sure. what's so bad about proving yourself??? after all isn't that what the fight is suppose to do anyway??? Prove who is #1 P4P...

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          • ModernTalking
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            #25
            LOL if you think Floyd believe that Manny is on PED than you're to slow.

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            • ADP02
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              #26
              Originally posted by Kingstan315
              I can't see why we want to ga at the same question from a diffrent angle, again and again and again. Anyway here we go.

              Nobody really knows for sure if Pac is really on PEDs, but if he is not there should be NO PROBLEM giving a little blood to show he is the man. I am not saying it's impossible for Pac to do what he has done without PEDs, In fact If he had agreed to OSDTs from the Beginning, It's unlikely anyone would have thought twice about it. I say that because I'm not sure it would have come out in the manner it did to the media. So when Pac refused to test, and I'm just speaking for me. It stirred intrest in me to research a little more about PEDs, I looked back at some of Pacs fights, in my opinion I feel that in the Diaz fight Pac was a diffrent animal. A monster if you will.

              Now he may have finally started to listen to Roach a little closer. Or he may have been better of since he didn't have to drain himself like he did for his first 50 fights. He can also be on some sort of PEDs or maybe Blood Doping I don't know. None of us know for sure. what's so bad about proving yourself??? after all isn't that what the fight is suppose to do anyway??? Prove who is #1 P4P...

              If you say that you are not sure I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

              Still, look at the video of Floyd's dad being interviewed after the Cotto fight. He stated that PEDs was the ONLY WAY he could have beaten a bigger guy like that. Golden Boy stated something similar. Floyd too.

              Many of Floyd's fans have said the same.

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              • lizard_man
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                #27
                yea man. I'd rather see floyd fight the juiced up manny that fought cotto, hatton, and ODLH just to see how good floyd really is.

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                • boxingsmash69
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                  #28
                  Put Ali in Mayweather's shoes, he would say:

                  "Good, I hope Pacquiao is on steroids, because if he aint, ill KO him in 1 round!"

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                  • Kingstan315
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    If you say that you are not sure I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

                    Still, look at the video of Floyd's dad being interviewed after the Cotto fight. He stated that PEDs was the ONLY WAY he could have beaten a bigger guy like that. Golden Boy stated something similar. Floyd too.

                    Many of Floyd's fans have said the same.
                    I don't Sr. was not the first nor the only one to say it. But still that's getting away from the point, We were not speaking on Sr. or anyone else...

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                    • Kingstan315
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lizard_man
                      yea man. I'd rather see floyd fight the juiced up manny that fought cotto, hatton, and ODLH just to see how good floyd really is.
                      that's cool I want to see a non Juiced Pac v a non juiced May...

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