Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Responds To Dzinziruk - "Sergei Who?"

[el rey]

Why wasn't Dzinziruk mentioned in the list of the 9 guys that Martinez gave to HBO? But, fighters like Vanes was? Really Vanes brings money in? More than a unification fight? Fine Dzinziruk doesn't bring money fine fight P-Will. But, you fight Vanes, JCC jr, or Cintron, or Sturm for crying out loug and some other guys he mentioned then he is ducking.

Every aficionado watches the sport to see the best fights happen.....and by best, the promoters (people who make fights happen) look only into a huge factor, $. Almost everyone on the top 10 p4p list (top 20 even) is guilty of avoiding their next highest ranked opponent in favor of a 'less-deserving' opponent who just happens to bring money. It happens all the time and I don't think it's fair for you to call the 35 year old lineal MW champ of the world a "ducker", I mean he just obliterated the top guy in the division. There are so many claims one can make against current elite fights about 'ducking' opposition that it really does make you look like a straight up hater just because he wants to make some serious dough, like I said, the dudes 35 and will only be getting older, no peaking his prime or nothing, he's riding on momentum. With that being said....I doubt we will see a Vanes/Chavez Jr - Martinez fight. Another thing is exposure, the dude just made stateside debut on shobox, good start, but Sergei ain't exactly Prince Nas that he can just come over here and demand to be revered for it. Of course I give him credit for the Santos/Julio beatings, but jeez dude, you swear.

Martinez should take on good opposition and even the dude said, if HBO makes the right money, it can happen.

[Bhopreign]

And, people haven't seen Dzinziruk on main event on a showtime fights? I mean WTF is going on here? On the real. Really no excuses man. Fight P-Will or Dzinziruk anything else besides maybe if Cotto or Floyd comes calling is unacceptable. And, I refuse to believe that Vanes who fought on a undercard fight on a premiuim network which he looked awful in by the way in a snoozer brings in more money then a fighter who fought on the main event of premium network where he won by KO.

But Dzin would want more than Vanes, therefore making Sergio's payback even less. And yes Chavez fought on an undercard of course, he isnt main event material for HBO, at least not at this moment.

[jri9d0]

OK he hasn't fought on HBO "undercard but he has fought on Showtime MAIN EVENT another premium network. Has JCC jr done that? Has Sturm don't that since the Oscar fight years ago? **** that fight was on PPV who not a lot of people saw. I mean there is no excuse

Man you're mentioning JCC Jr in order to merit Dzinziruk to not take chances to at least build a following of exposure here in the states?

Come on dude, you're better than that.

As for Sturm, at least we know who he is regardless of what any of us may feel about how his career turned out after DLH even if it was on PPV.

That said, there has to be at the very least a an interest in this fight which currently there isn't any. Maybe becuase more exposure is needed on part of Dzinziruk.

To add to that note, you wont get any argument from me regarding the best fighting the best but we should at least know who the best are at first wouldn't you agree?

[paulf]

I'm siding with Sergio: he's well into his 30s and he only wants the big, tough fights. He wants Mayweather or Paul Williams. Much bigger and more difficult fights than Dzinziruk.

[-Spinal-]

I am really disappointed in these comments from Sergio Martinez.

Yeah me too. Problem is his fan will defend him for it, but other boxers get ****ted on for these type of comments. Particularly Floyd Mayweather.

[jrosales13]

Yeah me too. Problem is his fan will defend him for it, but other boxers get ****ted on for these type of comments. Particularly Floyd Mayweather.

It is all double standards with these mofo's. And, I am telling you I am a huge Martinez fan. One dude called me a hater but how? Especially when I was bigging up Martinez since 2006 when he was Oscar mandatory. And, I was giving Oscar **** for not fighting Martinez, I was also giving Forrest **** for not fight fighting Martinez. When people were saying who is Martinez. Fuck that I knew who Martinez was.

[-Spinal-]

Think about this my friend, other than hardcore fans how many people know who Dzinziruk is?

Boxing is also a business with ratings taking center stage to revenue, fighting a fighter of whom can be considered a virtual unknown to the mainstream
is not good business sense.

You can call Sergio a duck if he declined Dzinziruk and I think most would disagree only because nobody knows who he is in the first place.

Other than hardcore fans, Martinez is relatively an unknown himself. More hardcore fans know Martinez than Dzinzuruk or however it's spelled, and that's it. Martinez is not this superstar who would be the A-Side of his fights. I assure you this guy Martinez will not be on HBO PPV, ever, unless he fights Pacquiao, Mayweather, maybe Cotto and maybe Mosley, with either of those is the only way he'll be on PPV and even then, I don't think Cotto-Martinez and Mosley-Martinez would be PPV. And those fights will be PPV for obvious reasons; Sergio's opponent. If you're wondering why i brought up PPVs, easy, when you are a PPV fighter then you can say comments like Martinez said in this article. But the guy is nothing but a HBO WCB fighter talking down on others that are as known to casual sports fans as him.

[Iceta Lives]

Sergio "Money" Martinez. Lol. Na, man I'm just kidding. I understand his position unlike Jro here. If you read the story and listen to Dibella, Dzinziruk must be getting some kind of money guarantee for each fight despite the fact he's got no drawing power with the American fans (which doesn't count for much, but still. The American TV ratings still mean a lot). So basically Shaw is gonna provide a guarantee that will eat into the other fighters' purse that he doesn't deserve like Khan is. That's why JMM wouldn't fight him.

And HBO also has to come up with a number for this fight that's fair to both fighters. Let's not get our panties in a bunch just yet.

[Blue Heffner]

I am really disappointed in these comments from Sergio Martinez.

I actually think this is a fight that's going to be made early next year, that's just my assumption.

[jri9d0]

Other than hardcore fans, Martinez is relatively an unknown himself. More hardcore fans know Martinez than Dzinzuruk or however it's spelled, and that's it. Martinez is not this superstar who would be the A-Side of his fights. I assure you this guy Martinez will not be on HBO PPV, ever, unless he fights Pacquiao, Mayweather, maybe Cotto and maybe Mosley, with either of those is the only way he'll be on PPV and even then, I don't think Cotto-Martinez and Mosley-Martinez would be PPV. And those fights will be PPV for obvious reasons; Sergio's opponent. If you're wondering why i brought up PPVs, easy, when you are a PPV fighter then you can say comments like Martinez said in this article. But the guy is nothing but a HBO WCB fighter talking down on others that are as known to casual sports fans as him.

I respect your opinion but your missing the point homey, granted Sergio may never be a PPV draw by any standards and as you mentioned prior if he did it would be because of his opponents and not Sergio.

The point I'm making is that networks care bout ratings, and in order for there to be at least a genuine interest in this fight to be even considered a main event attraction there has to be some notoriety from the fighters themselves.

Unfortunately, Dzinziruk doesn't possess that noteriety yet and Sergio does. In case you (and some others for that matter) didn't notice Sergio is in his late 30's his prime years may already be on the decline and considering some of the back to back fights he has had (i.e. Cintron, P. Williams, Pavlik) I think he at least earned the right to turned the other cheek on this dude especially if he hasn't established any notoriety yet to begin with.