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  • ModernTalking
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    #31
    Originally posted by Sugar Q
    Notice:

    *******s are against random OST and think Manny should always have the upper hand. Manny can do no wrong in their eyes.

    While so called *****s want fair testing implemented and want to see fairness all together purse splits,etc. We appreciate Floyd but we love boxing.
    If Floyd were against OST I'm sure all my dudes would have a problem with Floyd.
    Flomes believe that Floyd is on a drug crusade to clean up the sport LOL....

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    • Sugar Q
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      #32
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      I will give you 20,000 reasons why it wont be implimented in "every" championship bout much less smaller matches where the Boxers really don't make any money whatsoever.


      Some of you people need to be a little more realistic about thing and stop living in bizarro land.

      Left up to you we would still be using morris code. LMFAO.

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        #33
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        I will give you 20,000 reasons why it wont be implimented in "every" championship bout much less smaller matches where the Boxers really don't make any money whatsoever.


        Some of you people need to be a little more realistic about thing and stop living in bizarro land.
        you know and I know it will never be implemented on a every fight level correct?

        so with that in mind what I have thought is this

        you take the authority to test and simply leave it with the commissions that run boxing

        then from there you can have three options

        1. if both fighters agree to go with OST testing then it can be implemented with the costs of the testing to be split according to how the splits are for their purses among the two fighter's camps or promoters

        2. If the commissions see a need for OST for a particular fight then they too can call for OST provided that they pick up the tab because it was them that wanted the testing performed

        3. if either side balks at the testing then it goes back to standardized testing.

        That way it a) takes the negotiations somewhat out of the fighter's hands b) it allows the commissions the authority to enforce testing OR at least support testing without having 100% of the costs and c) also creates an avenue where their regular standard testing is still a viable option

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          #34
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          This makes no sense to me either. Boxers using PEDs know precisely how long it takes for the various drugs to clear their systems and become undetectable. I believe that it's time for the world of boxing to embrace a more effective drug testing program that includes random testing of both blood and urine.


          The testing for PEDs will never be perfect, but fairness and safety are of the utmost importance and the NSAC drug testing program currently in place is practically worthless."
          the red ^^^^


          that's what i was saying yesterday........

          Originally posted by pistol whip
          So only boxing royalty gets the privliage of OSDT? Seems to defeat the purpose of it and shows me that Floyd fans were never really in favor of cleaning up the sport to begin with. They were always just in favor of cleaning up Floyds bouts.
          what are you talking about?

          floyd was the first boxer to bring up the testing, and he's the only boxer who wants to implement it for all of his fights. i'm in favor of having the testing done across the board, but right now this form of testing has not been adopted as standard porcedure, meaning a boxer has to request it specifically for their own fights.....so far only a few have done so.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Sugar Q
            Left up to you we would still be using morris code. LMFAO.
            What? I don't understand how that statement even relates to what we were discussing.

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              #36
              The truth is Conte just want in on this A-Side stuff that Roger was talking about. If bullet is really bouncing off of the body with no effect, these stuff could be light year ahead of Conte stuff.

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              • pistol whip
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                #37
                Originally posted by FLY TY
                floyd was the first boxer to bring up the testing, and he's the only boxer who wants to implement it for all of his fights. i'm in favor of having the testing done across the board, but right now this form of testing has not been adopted as standard porcedure, meaning a boxer has to request it specifically for their own fights.....so far only a few have done so.
                Exactly it's a request and the other fighter can say no. Thats what you are not understanding the NSAC has a specific "rule" on how drug testing will be conducted. So essentially Floyd is trying to make up his own rules thus having an unfair advantage over other fighters who don't have the money to pay for osdt thus guerenteeing them a 100% clean fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  Exactly it's a request and the other fighter can say no. Thats what you are not understanding the NSAC has a specific "rule" on how drug testing will be conducted. So essentially Floyd is trying to make up his own rules thus having an unfair advantage over other fighters who don't have the money to pay for osdt thus guerenteeing them a 100% clean fight.
                  Im not sure how this is an unfair adavantage.

                  If Floyd said to someone "you and you only do this because I don't trust you" then I could see it

                  but he does the same thing he asks his opponents to do.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eaner0919
                    you know and I know it will never be implemented on a every fight level correct?

                    so with that in mind what I have thought is this

                    you take the authority to test and simply leave it with the commissions that run boxing

                    then from there you can have three options

                    1. if both fighters agree to go with OST testing then it can be implemented with the costs of the testing to be split according to how the splits are for their purses among the two fighter's camps or promoters

                    2. If the commissions see a need for OST for a particular fight then they too can call for OST provided that they pick up the tab because it was them that wanted the testing performed

                    3. if either side balks at the testing then it goes back to standardized testing.

                    That way it a) takes the negotiations somewhat out of the fighter's hands b) it allows the commissions the authority to enforce testing OR at least support testing without having 100% of the costs and c) also creates an avenue where their regular standard testing is still a viable option


                    Now this here is 100% reasonable and I have no problem with any of this. This would also stop fighters from using it as a means to hold up the show.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Exactly it's a request and the other fighter can say no. Thats what you are not understanding the NSAC has a specific "rule" on how drug testing will be conducted. So essentially Floyd is trying to make up his own rules thus having an unfair advantage over other fighters who don't have the money to pay for osdt thus guerenteeing them a 100% clean fight.
                      what???


                      it's up to the promoters to pay for the OST.....not the fighters.


                      floyd is not "making up rules," he's requesting a stipulation in a contract, just like fighters do when they request catchweights. floyd having an unfair advantage b/c he requests OST's?


                      you're right about 1 thing tho, other fighters are free to decline OST's, and the public is free to draw their own conclusions as to WHY.

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