Why cant the PED experts name this special PED.

[neoz]

Good thread.
Pacman is not on PED, I bet all my money on it.
If he was he would of got caught before the Morales fight where there was a surprise blood test 2days before the fight.

The thing is you are absolutely correct, that this drug that *****s believe Manny is taking. If it was available to him, likely everyone else in boxing would be using it as well.

Manny is not that special that he has access to some super PED noone can get.

End of the day. This PED nonsense came about because some selfish boxer name Floyd was just scared that he was fighting somebody who could KO his
ass.

[boxing_pundit85]

wtf do u know .. wat knowledge do u possess on how the drug testers make a drug bust.. man r u in some movie or wat that u trying to imply blood test will somehow revealed a drug that u "DEVELOP" which ur obvious dumbass couldnt...that **** is impossible with today's drug technology.. it would be nice though but it's not possible as of this moment u dumb maafaka

fyi, ever heard of drug raids done on lance armstrong or on the bikers in tour de france?? THATS ONE WAY THEY GET POSSESSION OF NEW PEDS DEVELOPED BY PED ENGINEERS..do u think theyd do this if they could just detect unknown peds through blood test.. do u think they raid to look like rambo or wat? i bet ud think that cus from the way u speak and the fantastical stuff u imply, its not too far off...
other way of catching new peds would be if someone who's on the new ped could turn himself in out of guilt or someone who knows someone on it could snitch..LIKE THE COACH WHO SNITCH THAT HIS PLAYERS WERE ON THE "CLEAR" or maybe a ped engineer developed a concious etc....

POINT IS, YOU CANT DETECT NEW PEDS OUT OF THE TEST TODAY.. especially blood test.. get that in ur head, its not an opinion, its a fact

look it up DUMB MAFAAKKA

u think that i literally thought i could create a new drug to cure a disease tomarrow? i was making an informal analogy. u can change "i" to anyone else in the world....... i am laughing because you have to live your life in this state. people can spell out arguments or state facts clearly and logically and you will still find a way to misunderstand.....u can call me ******, but you are really, technically and scientifically ******ed to some degree in some capacity. your brain is not fully formed or soemwhat damaged.

u are so ****ing dumb that u forget why u are arguing and just argue! exactly, a drug test wouldnt reveal a new drug that i just developed...just like a new ped someone invented wouldnt be able to be detected right away either. not without knowing about it!.......so u are agreeing with my example, unknowingly, and calling me ****** because you took somwthing out of context....

[check hook]

how is feefiflofum not banned.............????

he was spouting nothing but racist posts only a few days ago............

[tibbar]

Youve been blown out the water sonny and thats you big comeback , go read your comics because its painfully obvious you dont know what your talking about when it comes to PEDS and what can be used and what some of this stuff does , do you know some tranquilizers in tiny amounts can make a racehorse run untill he has a heart attack , Ive trained Greyhounds for many years believe me there is lots of drugs that will enhance performance .

LOLz, now who lets the dogs out... greyhounds????? drugs enhancing greyhound performance GPED?, thats ****ing hilarious, you probably a member of gorilladogs, gorilla greyhounds, ****ing a, you were this talking like an expert on performance enhancing drugs for boxers when all the while youre really training dogs for racing, bwahahaha.
sig worthy,

[Mana$$aMauler]

trainhard, what's wrong with you man???

It called is A-SIDE meth! I'm on it right now and I can type 5 words per minute. Get wid it!!!

[megadeth]

Thanks for that info.. I was hoping to get some serious logic in this discussion and it seems that we have concluded that..

The PED Pac is using is ONLY blood detectable, can be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size (cause thats what HGH does)..

So far from what previous posters have stated, what ever PED Pac is on must be something special and not heard of as of yet.. Just curious to why only Team Pac know of this and not other experts.. Thats what surprises me in this discussion with these others on here..?

Just to let u know, there are MANY anabolics that do many different things. Some more suited to adding strength, some good for both. Someone could EASILY use an anabolic that is suited to adding strength without gaining much size. HGH is included in this, as it DOES NOT add alot of mass when used alone. Its most anabolic when used along with AS and insulin(also IGF1-L3).

[4773Y350NM3]

Im sorry but I just want to know if anyone knows the name of this special PED that Pac is using.. Every drug has a name..

Why dont experts at USDA, NSAC, or they guys at OST know the name...

So this special PED that Pac is using can only be found in the blood and 14 days is enough time for Pac to use it then flush it out before his next test..?

Is that what this dude Conte is stating.. This special drug is Urine Proof and able to be cleansed out in a short period...

If this is the case, then whats the name of the PED Pac is using? Im sure experts should know this already.....

Conte sure should know what Pac is using, since he is a PED expert, rather then throwing out speculations..

Dont tell me Ariza and Roach mixed up some special Urine free PED mix that these experts dont know of..

Im sure if Pac is using it then someone else out in the world is using it too so it has to have a name... DONT YOU THINK..

You shouldnt ask the experts, the mayweather's have all the answer. You should consult with them.

[Reloaded]

LOLz, now who lets the dogs out... greyhounds????? drugs enhancing greyhound performance GPED?, thats ****ing hilarious, you probably a member of gorilladogs, gorilla greyhounds, ****ing a, you were this talking like an expert on performance enhancing drugs for boxers when all the while youre really training dogs for racing, bwahahaha.
sig worthy,

What a ****head , its all the same stuff lol and 90% of all illegal gym drugs come via veterinary lines , do you know what a generic drug is lol , you would not know if your ass was on fire lol ,,, Pacfarts are soooooo ***en real world dumb .

[wccole81]

Im sorry but I just want to know if anyone knows the name of this special PED that Pac is using.. Every drug has a name..

Why dont experts at USDA, NSAC, or they guys at OST know the name...

So this special PED that Pac is using can only be found in the blood and 14 days is enough time for Pac to use it then flush it out before his next test..?

Is that what this dude Conte is stating.. This special drug is Urine Proof and able to be cleansed out in a short period...

If this is the case, then whats the name of the PED Pac is using? Im sure experts should know this already.....

Conte sure should know what Pac is using, since he is a PED expert, rather then throwing out speculations..

Dont tell me Ariza and Roach mixed up some special Urine free PED mix that these experts dont know of..

Im sure if Pac is using it then someone else out in the world is using it too so it has to have a name... DONT YOU THINK..

Posted this earlier from ESPN...


Here is some info on how cyclists beat drug tests...Some pretty insane measures they take not to get caught...Just thought it was interesting info about PEDS

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...ory?id=5222488

Here's a small piece of it, these guys can flush their systems in less than a day...


"Ashenden recently completed a study in which he injected subjects intravenously twice weekly with microdoses of EPO over a period of three months, then ran their blood values through the biological passport software. "Not one of them failed," he said.

Catlin said Landis' account matches anecdotal accounts he has heard through the years, "although I've never had it described as vividly," he said.

Catlin said the program required "fairly sophisticated knowledge," and agreed with Ashenden that athletes may have had more confidence in their ability to beat the tests than was warranted. "They'll take those risks because the rewards are so handsome," said Catlin, who currently oversees an independent testing program for two U.S.-based teams, HTC-Columbia and Garmin-Transitions.

Both researchers said the only way to completely foil what Landis described would be to ensure that tests are truly unannounced -- or resort to more Draconian measures like 24-hour testing or regularly inspecting riders for needle marks. "[The passport] is still the best thing we've got in terms of targeting athletes," said Ashenden, who added that steroid and human growth hormone markers are about to be included in the passport profiles.

[Century Tuna]

Low doses of PEDs help athletes and stay undetected!