Why cant the PED experts name this special PED.

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  • trainhard_187
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    #11
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Nothing special about Anabolics , note the days untill its undetectable !

    “All anabolic steroids are similar to testosterone. If you test often enough over a sufficiently long period, you can see where the perks are. What athletes are doing now is using low-dose testosterone. The gels and the creams will clear in a day. Oral testosterone will clear in about four days. Water-based injectable testosterone will clean in about 10 days - Conte

    Just the information I wanted, and this is gel or cream is Urine proof? Applying a gel or cream substance in the blood, I find that hard to imagine. Are we talking cream as in sports cream? Wouldnt a blood based PED be taken through a needle?

    Lets keep this conversation respectful.. Just curious, if its a gel or cream. How would you apply it in your blood stream and why is it Urine proof?

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    • Animal Squabbs
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      #12
      artificial Human Growth Hormone (aka HGH)

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        #13
        Originally posted by Animal Squabbs
        artificial Human Growth Hormone (aka HGH)
        And this is proven to not be detected in the Urine at all and can be flushed out in a matter of days correct?

        Human Growth, so if this is what Pac is taking, his size should up when up as well. Size as in arm size, chest, body mass.. Cause Pacs size looks the same as he did at featherweight and 130..

        Example Barry Bonds.. His arms bulked up as well as his chest
        Last edited by trainhard_187; 06-10-2010, 06:45 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by trainhard_187
          Im sorry but I just want to know if anyone knows the name of this special PED that Pac is using.. Every drug has a name..

          Why dont experts at USDA, NSAC, or they guys at OST know the name...

          So this special PED that Pac is using can only be found in the blood and 14 days is enough time for Pac to use it then flush it out before his next test..?

          Is that what this dude Conte is stating.. This special drug is Urine Proof and able to be cleansed out in a short period...

          If this is the case, then whats the name of the PED Pac is using? Im sure experts should know this already.....

          Conte sure should know what Pac is using, since he is a PED expert, rather then throwing out speculations..

          Dont tell me Ariza and Roach mixed up some special Urine free PED mix that these experts dont know of..

          Im sure if Pac is using it then someone else out in the world is using it too so it has to have a name... DONT YOU THINK..

          No one knew about the Clear and the Cream until the Balco Scandal
          so whats your point
          if they dont know the name then they dont have a test for it
          its called being under the radar or ahead of the game
          Im not saying Pac is pedding but come on now

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            #15
            steroids and hgh are 2 different things. HGH can only be detected from a blood test. Steroids can be detected in urine, but advancements have come up with oral pills and creams which will clear oyt of the body within days so you arent caught.

            steroids = articial testosterone

            hgh = artificial growth hormone

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            • Reloaded
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              #16
              Originally posted by Gutz
              Ahh yes..


              Cause the nasal steroids my doctor gave me to help with my allergy this spring really going to help me lift those 50 extra pounds on my bench..
              Youve been blown out the water sonny and thats you big comeback , go read your comics because its painfully obvious you dont know what your talking about when it comes to PEDS and what can be used and what some of this stuff does , do you know some tranquilizers in tiny amounts can make a racehorse run untill he has a heart attack , Ive trained Greyhounds for many years believe me there is lots of drugs that will enhance performance .

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              • Gutz
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                #17
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Glenbuterol , Prednislone , Dexamethasone ,,,, you want some more sonny you dont know what your talking about .



                did you mean Clenbuterol??

                It can be detected and so can Dexamethasone..



                Never heard of Prednislone ?? what does this do??

                beside give you side effects??

                Major
                Micrograph of fatty liver, as may be seen due to long-term prednisone use. Trichrome stain.

                * increased blood sugar for diabetics
                * weight gain
                * facial swelling
                * depression, mania, psychosis or other psychiatric symptoms
                * unusual fatigue or weakness
                * mental confusion / indecisiveness
                * blurred vision
                * abdominal pain
                * peptic ulcer
                * infections
                * painful hips or shoulders
                * Steroid-induced osteoporosis
                * Osteonecrosis
                * Long term migraines
                * insomnia
                * severe joint pain
                * cataracts
                * anxiety
                * black stool
                * stomach pain or bloating
                * severe swelling
                * mouth sores or dry mouth
                * avascular necrosis
                * hepatic steatosis

                [edit] Minor

                * stretch marks
                * nervousness
                * acne
                * rash
                * increased appetite
                * hyperactivity
                * frequent urination
                * diarrhea
                * removes intestinal flora
                * leg pain/cramps
                * sensitive teeth

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  No one knew about the Clear and the Cream until the Balco Scandal
                  so whats your point
                  if they dont know the name then they dont have a test for it
                  its called being under the radar or ahead of the game
                  Im not saying Pac is pedding but come on now
                  Ok, keeping this conversation professional now.. No one knew of the cream which until Balco.. Ok I got that..

                  So now Pac and his people might have some sort of PED that we dont know of is what your stating.. A PED that can not be detected in the Urine, able to be flushed out right away, and doesnt increase your body mass and size..

                  Pac and his people are the only ones that know of this? Seriously

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                  • Gutz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Youve been blown out the water sonny and thats you big comeback , go read your comics because its painfully obvious you dont know what your talking about when it comes to PEDS and what can be used and what some of this stuff does , do you know some tranquilizers in tiny amounts can make a racehorse run untill he has a heart attack , Ive trained Greyhounds for many years believe me there is lots of drugs that will enhance performance .


                    Look at this little ***** .. Think he a doctor or a Ped expert...


                    All you are is a damn ****ing ***** **** sucker..

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                    • Gutz
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by trainhard_187
                      Ok, keeping this conversation professional now.. No one knew of the cream which until Balco.. Ok I got that..

                      So now Pac and his people might have some sort of PED that we dont know of is what your stating.. A PED that can not be detected in the Urine, able to be flushed out right away, and doesnt increase your body mass and size..

                      Pac and his people are the only ones that know of this? Seriously



                      Just like what Floyd JR said...


                      the Philippines have the make the best PEDS...

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