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  • feefiflofum
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    #31
    Originally posted by trainhard_187
    Ok, keeping this conversation professional now.. No one knew of the cream which until Balco.. Ok I got that..

    So now Pac and his people might have some sort of PED that we dont know of is what your stating.. A PED that can not be detected in the Urine, able to be flushed out right away, and doesnt increase your body mass and size..

    Pac and his people are the only ones that know of this? Seriously
    umm dude, dont get the impression that blood test was the downfall of balco, you can look that **** up for yourself but ill tell you, some athlete's coach got mad and had possesion of the "CLEAR" and he snitch on balco when he call up the CALIFORNIA ADA and provided the sample allegedly manufactured and supplied by balco, they gave the sample to whats his name doctor and he develop A URINEEEEEE TEST!!!!! which could detect it, it was only through the URINEEEE TEST!!!!! did they catch the balco users ,, of course they also raided the lab and got wind of "BALCO'S" client..marion jones, mosley, montogomery, bonds etc..... so they got expose bigtime..

    only an ignorant black maafaka acts like whooa.. BLOOOD TEST exposed balco cus u know urine was there and like.. blood just came along and then voila they got exposed.. LOGIC lmao...

    this is a dumb black ***** logic, they dont live in real life and know what EXACTLY HAPPEN
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    • trainhard_187
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      #32
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
      I just got what you are saying
      how many people knew about balco though?
      not many right
      it could be the same thing
      Ok, and I am gonna be open minded and say, their could be a possibility that we havent heard of this special PED manufacturer yet as with Balco, which with what your stating it can be possible..

      So overall, Pac and only Pacman is suspect of using a new type of PED that is only blood detectable, able to be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size.. This is the speculation that we have concluded..

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        #33
        Originally posted by trainhard_187
        Ok, and I am gonna be open minded and say, their could be a possibility that we havent heard of this special PED manufacturer yet as with Balco, which with what your stating it can be possible..

        So overall, Pac and only Pacman is suspect of using a new type of PED that is only blood detectable, able to be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size.. This is the speculation that we have concluded..
        no man, thats not how testing works, blood test is not some all detecting type of test that makes u go whoa... i never see that b4, the test r develop b4 hand from drugs found b4hand,it's the same with urine, u need to posses the sample b4hand, have a stringest test develop( THIS TAKES MONTHS OR YEARS ) and then officially implement it, im not making this up, u can google it
        the type of test u r referring to is a fantasy
        hold up i might give u a link asap

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          #34
          But according to USADA 18 days prior to the fight they can concur if you are clean or not.

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          • trainhard_187
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            #35
            Originally posted by feefiflofum
            umm dude, dont get the impression that blood test was the downfall of balco, you can look that **** up for yourself but ill tell you, some athlete's coach got mad and had possesion of the "CLEAR" and he snitch on balco when he call up the CALIFORNIA ADA and provided the sample allegedly manufactured and supplied by balco, they gave the sample to whats his name doctor and he develop A URINEEEEEE TEST!!!!! which could detect it, it was only through the URINEEEE TEST!!!!! did they catch the balco users ,, of course they also raided the lab and got wind of "BALCO'S" client..marion jones, mosley, montogomery, bonds etc..... so they got expose bigtime..

            only an ignorant black maafaka acts like whooa.. BLOOOD TEST exposed balco cus u know urine was there and like.. blood just came along and then voila they got exposed.. LOGIC lmao...

            this is a dumb black ***** logic, they dont live in real life and know what EXACTLY HAPPEN
            Thanks for that info.. I was hoping to get some serious logic in this discussion and it seems that we have concluded that..

            The PED Pac is using is ONLY blood detectable, can be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size (cause thats what HGH does)..

            So far from what previous posters have stated, what ever PED Pac is on must be something special and not heard of as of yet.. Just curious to why only Team Pac know of this and not other experts.. Thats what surprises me in this discussion with these others on here..?

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              #36
              Originally posted by trainhard_187
              Thanks for that info.. I was hoping to get some serious logic in this discussion and it seems that we have concluded that..

              The PED Pac is using is ONLY blood detectable, can be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size (cause thats what HGH does)..

              So far from what previous posters have stated, what ever PED Pac is on must be something special and not heard of as of yet.. Just curious to why only Team Pac know of this and not other experts.. Thats what surprises me in this discussion with these others on here..?
              LOL oh i get it, you just making fun of the way *****'s think.. lol alright carry on bro

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                #37
                Originally posted by trainhard_187
                Im sure their are but til this day we dont know the name of this special PED that can be cleansed out in a 14day window and can only be detected in blood..

                It has to have a name dont you think? And also, its kinda funny that only Pacquiao is a known user of this drug..

                Experts should of pointed the finger to the drug name by now dont you think?
                trying to make an argument that pac isnt on roids through the attempted use of logic? there are drugs that show up in blood and not urine. why couldnt the evidence of ped use show up in other areas of the body, and not urine and blood? why couldnt a ped be perfectly synthesized within the body after 14 days? why do you deny the possibiltiy that a ped exists that cannot be tested for, or no funtional test currently exists for?
                if i create a new drug tomarrow that cures parkinsons, instantly everyone knows everything about that drug and how to measure(detect) levels of that drug in the body? not if i dont tell them. and ped engineers obviously have an interest in revealing this info to as few people as possible.

                the fact isnt that pac is on steroids. the fact is that any pro athlete can conceivably be on peds without us knowing.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
                  trying to make an argument that pac isnt on roids through the attempted use of logic? there are drugs that show up in blood and not urine. why couldnt the evidence of ped use show up in other areas of the body, and not urine and blood? why couldnt a ped be perfectly synthesized within the body after 14 days? why do you deny the possibiltiy that a ped exists that cannot be tested for, or no funtional test currently exists for?
                  if i create a new drug tomarrow that cures parkinsons, instantly everyone knows everything about that drug and how to measure(detect) levels of that drug in the body? not if i dont tell them. and ped engineers obviously have an interest in revealing this info to as few people as possible.

                  the fact isnt that pac is on steroids. the fact is that any pro athlete can conceivably be on peds without us knowing.
                  stfu wat do u know about the drugs that show up in blood nothing, you have no knowledge thats why when you try to make a point, you only know what i highlighted and you leave it at that and then u have the audacity to speculate base on that little ass knowledge u possess? man stfu you have no knowledge whatsoever to fully analyze and interpret how the drug testing should proceed... dumb maafaka
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
                    trying to make an argument that pac isnt on roids through the attempted use of logic? there are drugs that show up in blood and not urine. why couldnt the evidence of ped use show up in other areas of the body, and not urine and blood? why couldnt a ped be perfectly synthesized within the body after 14 days? why do you deny the possibiltiy that a ped exists that cannot be tested for, or no funtional test currently exists for?
                    if i create a new drug tomarrow that cures parkinsons, instantly everyone knows everything about that drug and how to measure(detect) levels of that drug in the body? not if i dont tell them. and ped engineers obviously have an interest in revealing this info to as few people as possible.

                    the fact isnt that pac is on steroids. the fact is that any pro athlete can conceivably be on peds without us knowing.


                    wtf do u know .. wat knowledge do u possess on how the drug testers make a drug bust.. man r u in some movie or wat that u trying to imply blood test will somehow revealed a drug that u "DEVELOP" which ur obvious dumbass couldnt...that **** is impossible with today's drug technology.. it would be nice though but it's not possible as of this moment u dumb maafaka

                    fyi, ever heard of drug raids done on lance armstrong or on the bikers in tour de france?? THATS ONE WAY THEY GET POSSESSION OF NEW PEDS DEVELOPED BY PED ENGINEERS..do u think theyd do this if they could just detect unknown peds through blood test.. do u think they raid to look like rambo or wat? i bet ud think that cus from the way u speak and the fantastical stuff u imply, its not too far off...
                    other way of catching new peds would be if someone who's on the new ped could turn himself in out of guilt or someone who knows someone on it could snitch..LIKE THE COACH WHO SNITCH THAT HIS PLAYERS WERE ON THE "CLEAR" or maybe a ped engineer developed a concious etc....

                    POINT IS, YOU CANT DETECT NEW PEDS OUT OF THE TEST TODAY.. especially blood test.. get that in ur head, its not an opinion, its a fact

                    look it up DUMB MAFAAKKA
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by feefiflofum
                      stfu wat do u know about the drugs that show up in blood nothing, you have no knowledge thats why when you try to make a point, you only know what i highlighted and you leave it at that and then u have the audacity to speculate base on that little ass knowledge u possess? man stfu you have no knowledge whatsoever to fully analyze and interpret how the drug testing should proceed... dumb maafaka
                      first of all u didnt understand my post. i wasnt claiming to be a ped expert, genius. all i did was highlight ignorance and inconsitancy in own little ******ed argument, yes, i am not a chemist u fcking ******. i dont pretend to be, and contradict and embarass myself in the proccess. that is your role b!tch.

                      i know that your argument is flawed and illogical. thats what i am saying. and you calling me dumb is funny.

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