6 years ago the fights that the boxing world were asking Mayweather to take were....

[adrian62]

If Floyd was Humble and "Loved by the Media", he would be considered one of the greats without a doubt. But because he is an ******* nobody likes him and everybody he beats is overrated or too old. He beat 6 of 7 of what experts called the top fighters at that time. Give the man some respect. WHEN he beats Manny, the excuse is going to be that Pac-man couldnt concentrate because of his political duties so the win isnt going to be respected. **** all the Haters. Get Money!

[AllEyesOpen]

If Floyd was Humble and "Loved by the Media", he would be considered one of the greats without a doubt. But because he is an ******* nobody likes him and everybody he beats is overrated or too old. He beat 6 of 7 of what experts called the top fighters at that time. Give the man some respect. WHEN he beats Manny, the excuse is going to be that Pac-man couldnt concentrate because of his political duties so the win isnt going to be respected. **** all the Haters. Get Money!

No, Manny was "blood drained" whatever that means.

[adrian62]

he had 9.99 pints instead of 10 pints.

[goldenglove2]

Shane was off and year nd a half when Bob made that comment.

[goldenglove2]

If Floyd was Humble and "Loved by the Media", he would be considered one of the greats without a doubt. But because he is an ******* nobody likes him and everybody he beats is overrated or too old. He beat 6 of 7 of what experts called the top fighters at that time. Give the man some respect. WHEN he beats Manny, the excuse is going to be that Pac-man couldnt concentrate because of his political duties so the win isnt going to be respected. **** all the Haters. Get Money!

what 6-7 top fighters are you referring too?? Sharmba Mitchell??? lmao........do you even follow boxing?

[goldenglove2]

Joshua Clottey, Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron have never been on the top of the division bro... and Margarito was on top for a hot second before shane whooped that ass and he got caught cheating so lets be clear. Now Miguel Cotto you have a case that fight should have happened a long time ago and if the pac fight doesn't happen then there's a point too. Floyd earned his chops before he even got to the WW and when the guy got here he beat the tops of the division and then beat the best LMW at the time. If you want to be mad that he hasn't fought everybody thats on you but don't bull shi+. I'll be just as pissed as you if the Pac fight doesn't happen i'll be just as pissed as you.

marg the #1 rated WW under the lineal champ for about two years when they were calling out Floyd.....Clottey was a top 5-3 WW, man are you insane? do you even follow boxing...??

PW was on top when he beat Margo..Margo was the #1 rated WW......UNDER THE CHAMP......man, simple!!!

[adrian62]

Mitchell, Gatti, Hatton, Mosley, De La Hoya, Judah, & Tzuyu

Of course I follow boxing. Im just not a BoxingScene undisputed champ Forum Poster such as yourself. I have what people call a J-O-B.

BTW, can we really count all of Margarito's success? How do we know he hasnt been fighting with loaded gloves his whole career?

[SirTomJones]

If he fights and beats Manny he deserves a hell of a lot more respect than he gets on here.

[adrian62]

Mayweather and Pacquiao are the Top 2 fighters. If they fight, the winner can be called the #1. All this bickering and could of/should of remarks can be discarded. Both are great fighters, 1 just gets more respect because he is "humble" and "respected".

[ADP02]

your points are so shallow man----think a little bit more logically cowboy----did manny not fight clottey? didn't clottey lose to cotto? so what if he fought and beat cotto first----baldomir lost every round to floyd---and judah put up a much better fight----didn't manny fight eric after eric lost to raheem? are youu ignoring these facts----it's not only the money, it's the threat and competition---zab losing to tata showed us that you can never underestimate any fighter---zab did---there's a reason zab's not where floyd is-----did cotto not fight zab after he lost to floyd, came off of a year suspension, and went to a nc in his first fight back, and took cotto 11 rounds? yes he did------

and you minus well give it a rest with the whole floyd and kosta fight----floyd wanted a ppv fight with a champion in gatti, and by the time that fight was made, and floyd dealing with his legal issues, and whatnot, kosta had already signed to fight hatton, lost to hatton, retired---hatton came out and said that he didn't want to fight floyd yet, he wasn't ready-----vivian harris lost to maussa, who cotto beat, and harris lost on the mayweather/gatti undercard---he was ko'ed---he lost his shot----arum kept cotto far away from floyd---he threw margairto at floyd coz tony wasn't a big name like cotto, and that's why floyd didn't fight margarito, coz arum was screwing him out of big money fights with bigger names----that whole 8 million dollar to fight margarito was bs----floyd would have gotten hounded by the mass for fighting margarito, especially seeing how people started to claim he was ducking baldomir, who had just ko'ed gatti, and they wanted to see him fight floyd----floyd wasn't even going to fight tata---he wanted de la hoya at the time remember? he thought they were fighting in september---when oscar decided he wasn't ready for floyd yet, floyd tried to make a fight with, not baldomir, shane mosley---but mosley's tooth was loose and he wanted a vacation----and he advised floyd should fight margarito---basically saying, he thought margarito would take something out of floyd, which he wouldn't have, except more money----coz that fight wouldn't have outsold mayweather vs baldomir for the official ww championship---floyd was smart as **** for doing what he did-----

his performance against tata gave de la hoya an incentive to believe he could beat floyd---coz floyd played it safe and potshotted his way to victory---this is when all of the criticism came centerfold----floyd was then called a ducker, a runner in the ring, just listen to the commentary----larry merchant was so into floyd when he fought judah, claiming, he can outbox you, he can outbrawl you, he canpunch you, he can outhtink you, and all of that mess, and so was jim lampley, saying floyd is a great fighter, and the more you watch him, the more you appreciate it right after saying the number 1 p4p fighter in the sport----all of a sudden, i don't know if floyd said anything to rub them the wrong way, the next fight, larry, jim, and the puppet on the string himself, manny steward were bashing floyd like no other----calling him boring and whatnot, when just a fight ago, he was throwing combinations, walking zab down, and more----and had floyd not hurt his hands(there you go all of the dumbies on here claiming floyd cheats with that xylidocine injection ****), floyd would and could have stopped zab and tata-----

but floyd was looking forward to a huge payday with oscar, and oscar was at that fight with floyd vs tata----and he saw what he took as weakness from floyd, and i guarantee you all, and i made this claim years ago on here, that oscar felt that the 147 pound weightclass for floyd was too much for him, so he decided to take him up to 154, and slow him down even more---which is why he put in that weight limit penalty---if floyd doesn't weight at least 4 pounds under 154, the fight is off---and of course oscar chooses the ring size, gets the purse, chooses the gloves, maybe even the judge who gave oscar the 115-113 decision over floyd(tommy kaszmerick---i know i spelled his last name wrong once again-lol), but the one thing oscar couldn't choose was the skill to beat floyd----floyd buckled oscar, used oscar's rhythm and pace against him, while being hammered by the commentary outside, for not being more exciting and whatnot----i mean, this is all that happened daddio----

someone told you to learn the politics of the sport---it does matter----pay attention---i have----

floyd is treated very unfair, but as long as he keeps on making it do what it do, none of this criticism matter---because the performance doesn't lie----the numbers don't lie-----floyd didn't duck margarito and cotto and shane and kosta and hatton-----deal with it----

You are making it too easy for me ...........

Here it goes:

1) Cotto vs Clottey and Judah vs Baldomir.

Cotto vs Clottey could have gone either way. Some had Clottey winning. So this point of yours is INVALID .... terrible analogy. Continue reading ....

Judah got creamed by Baldomir. It wasn't even close. So there was something definitely wrong with Judah fighting Floyd at Welterweight at this point and Floyd should have picked someone else. Still, Floyd picked to fight Judah. Why? It was less of a risk at this point.


Erik Morales vs Manny. Toooo easy Erik lost to someone that was at a higher division than Erik's ever been. Erik had beat Manny already and they wanted to have a rematch.


Do I need to continue or are you at least beginning to understand the trend? The difference?


2) Kostya vs Floyd never happened. Judah did fight Kostya, Hatton did, Mitchel did twice, Floyd didn't ..... maybe it's coincidence or maybe a trend. Read on ....


3) Come on, you really buying and putting Baldomir in this discussion ... just a complete joke. You are buying that but nobody and I mean nobody else bought it. That fight was joke of the year for those who know boxing.


4) Cotto vs Floyd and Margo vs Floyd. It's funny that AGAIN everyone can fight and find each other (Cotto vs Margo) but Floyd didn't ..... maybe it's coincidence or maybe a trend. Read on ....

Floyd should have faced the Cotto that faced or beat Mosley.... Floyd retired ... Floyd should have faced Margo not that nobody named Baldomir. Again, stop talking about Baldomir because he was and is a joke. All it proved was that Floyd should not have faced Gatti and Judah at that point in time. That's it BUT YOU ARE NOT SEEING THIS!!! Crazy man!!!


You state some points like the window of opportunity for Floyd to fight them is so small. That is so far from the truth since so many fighters can find each other but not Floyd.

5) I stated what I stated in my other post but you didn't really respond to it. All you said was OTHER WORDS but you never ever dispelled what I said .....



What I said was that he didn't fight Margo, Cotto, Kotsya and fought others such as Hatton, Mitchel in the wrong weight division .... also Floyd fought an out of prime Mosley, Oscar and Gatti and also guys who had just lost embarrassing fights to noname boxers yet Floyd fought them.


I don't agree with your response but at least you put an effort ......


What you and other Floyd fans are not seeing is that Floyd had missed so many opportunities to fight the bigger matches. You think it was great idea to fight Baldomir but the boxing critics thought differently about that pick and others.

The big names at WW were Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margo ...... these people were all able to find each other..... Floyd got a hold of one of them when he was almost 39 and hadn't fought in 1.5 years...... I have no problem with you or someone else trying to defend Floyd but you need to understand that people have legitimate reasons as to why we say what we say.

This has nothing to do with how good Floyd is as I would be the first to say he is good...but to prove how good you are you need to face them all at their prime (within reason).

Ali took on Foreman after Foreman beat up Frazier and Norton easily. Where Ali had problems against both. Ali went across the world to fight Foreman and beat him. Critics want to see more of that from Floyd. ..... maybe it's coincidence or maybe a trend.

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