6 years ago the fights that the boxing world were asking Mayweather to take were....

[pbftxrs316]

Planning to fight Judah but he lost ..... he also planned to fight Margo, Manny but he managed to say no for whatever reason so to say no, at the time, against Judah would have been the best route until Judah shapes up.
When you fight the loser of the fight then what does that say? Did you even see how bad Judah looked against Baldo? Floyd must have been laughing ...... Same with Mitchel vs Kostya....... Floyd fought again the loser ....

Who wanted the Baldo fight instead of Margo? Only Floyd!!!

Hatton lived at 140 but for you it was a big risk for Floyd at 147 where Hatton did nothing much? Same with Mitchel ......

The rest I already stated in my other post.

your points are so shallow man----think a little bit more logically cowboy----did manny not fight clottey? didn't clottey lose to cotto? so what if he fought and beat cotto first----baldomir lost every round to floyd---and judah put up a much better fight----didn't manny fight eric after eric lost to raheem? are youu ignoring these facts----it's not only the money, it's the threat and competition---zab losing to tata showed us that you can never underestimate any fighter---zab did---there's a reason zab's not where floyd is-----did cotto not fight zab after he lost to floyd, came off of a year suspension, and went to a nc in his first fight back, and took cotto 11 rounds? yes he did------

and you minus well give it a rest with the whole floyd and kosta fight----floyd wanted a ppv fight with a champion in gatti, and by the time that fight was made, and floyd dealing with his legal issues, and whatnot, kosta had already signed to fight hatton, lost to hatton, retired---hatton came out and said that he didn't want to fight floyd yet, he wasn't ready-----vivian harris lost to maussa, who cotto beat, and harris lost on the mayweather/gatti undercard---he was ko'ed---he lost his shot----arum kept cotto far away from floyd---he threw margairto at floyd coz tony wasn't a big name like cotto, and that's why floyd didn't fight margarito, coz arum was screwing him out of big money fights with bigger names----that whole 8 million dollar to fight margarito was bs----floyd would have gotten hounded by the mass for fighting margarito, especially seeing how people started to claim he was ducking baldomir, who had just ko'ed gatti, and they wanted to see him fight floyd----floyd wasn't even going to fight tata---he wanted de la hoya at the time remember? he thought they were fighting in september---when oscar decided he wasn't ready for floyd yet, floyd tried to make a fight with, not baldomir, shane mosley---but mosley's tooth was loose and he wanted a vacation----and he advised floyd should fight margarito---basically saying, he thought margarito would take something out of floyd, which he wouldn't have, except more money----coz that fight wouldn't have outsold mayweather vs baldomir for the official ww championship---floyd was smart as **** for doing what he did-----

his performance against tata gave de la hoya an incentive to believe he could beat floyd---coz floyd played it safe and potshotted his way to victory---this is when all of the criticism came centerfold----floyd was then called a ducker, a runner in the ring, just listen to the commentary----larry merchant was so into floyd when he fought judah, claiming, he can outbox you, he can outbrawl you, he canpunch you, he can outhtink you, and all of that mess, and so was jim lampley, saying floyd is a great fighter, and the more you watch him, the more you appreciate it right after saying the number 1 p4p fighter in the sport----all of a sudden, i don't know if floyd said anything to rub them the wrong way, the next fight, larry, jim, and the puppet on the string himself, manny steward were bashing floyd like no other----calling him boring and whatnot, when just a fight ago, he was throwing combinations, walking zab down, and more----and had floyd not hurt his hands(there you go all of the dumbies on here claiming floyd cheats with that xylidocine injection ****), floyd would and could have stopped zab and tata-----

but floyd was looking forward to a huge payday with oscar, and oscar was at that fight with floyd vs tata----and he saw what he took as weakness from floyd, and i guarantee you all, and i made this claim years ago on here, that oscar felt that the 147 pound weightclass for floyd was too much for him, so he decided to take him up to 154, and slow him down even more---which is why he put in that weight limit penalty---if floyd doesn't weight at least 4 pounds under 154, the fight is off---and of course oscar chooses the ring size, gets the purse, chooses the gloves, maybe even the judge who gave oscar the 115-113 decision over floyd(tommy kaszmerick---i know i spelled his last name wrong once again-lol), but the one thing oscar couldn't choose was the skill to beat floyd----floyd buckled oscar, used oscar's rhythm and pace against him, while being hammered by the commentary outside, for not being more exciting and whatnot----i mean, this is all that happened daddio----

someone told you to learn the politics of the sport---it does matter----pay attention---i have----

floyd is treated very unfair, but as long as he keeps on making it do what it do, none of this criticism matter---because the performance doesn't lie----the numbers don't lie-----floyd didn't duck margarito and cotto and shane and kosta and hatton-----deal with it----

[Frank Ducketts]

your points are so shallow man----think a little bit more logically cowboy----did manny not fight clottey? didn't clottey lose to cotto? so what if he fought and beat cotto first----baldomir lost every round to floyd---and judah put up a much better fight----didn't manny fight eric after eric lost to raheem? are youu ignoring these facts----it's not only the money, it's the threat and competition---zab losing to tata showed us that you can never underestimate any fighter---zab did---there's a reason zab's not where floyd is-----did cotto not fight zab after he lost to floyd, came off of a year suspension, and went to a nc in his first fight back, and took cotto 11 rounds? yes he did------

and you minus well give it a rest with the whole floyd and kosta fight----floyd wanted a ppv fight with a champion in gatti, and by the time that fight was made, and floyd dealing with his legal issues, and whatnot, kosta had already signed to fight hatton, lost to hatton, retired---hatton came out and said that he didn't want to fight floyd yet, he wasn't ready-----vivian harris lost to maussa, who cotto beat, and harris lost on the mayweather/gatti undercard---he was ko'ed---he lost his shot----arum kept cotto far away from floyd---he threw margairto at floyd coz tony wasn't a big name like cotto, and that's why floyd didn't fight margarito, coz arum was screwing him out of big money fights with bigger names----that whole 8 million dollar to fight margarito was bs----floyd would have gotten hounded by the mass for fighting margarito, especially seeing how people started to claim he was ducking baldomir, who had just ko'ed gatti, and they wanted to see him fight floyd----floyd wasn't even going to fight tata---he wanted de la hoya at the time remember? he thought they were fighting in september---when oscar decided he wasn't ready for floyd yet, floyd tried to make a fight with, not baldomir, shane mosley---but mosley's tooth was loose and he wanted a vacation----and he advised floyd should fight margarito---basically saying, he thought margarito would take something out of floyd, which he wouldn't have, except more money----coz that fight wouldn't have outsold mayweather vs baldomir for the official ww championship---floyd was smart as **** for doing what he did-----

his performance against tata gave de la hoya an incentive to believe he could beat floyd---coz floyd played it safe and potshotted his way to victory---this is when all of the criticism came centerfold----floyd was then called a ducker, a runner in the ring, just listen to the commentary----larry merchant was so into floyd when he fought judah, claiming, he can outbox you, he can outbrawl you, he canpunch you, he can outhtink you, and all of that mess, and so was jim lampley, saying floyd is a great fighter, and the more you watch him, the more you appreciate it right after saying the number 1 p4p fighter in the sport----all of a sudden, i don't know if floyd said anything to rub them the wrong way, the next fight, larry, jim, and the puppet on the string himself, manny steward were bashing floyd like no other----calling him boring and whatnot, when just a fight ago, he was throwing combinations, walking zab down, and more----and had floyd not hurt his hands(there you go all of the dumbies on here claiming floyd cheats with that xylidocine injection ****), floyd would and could have stopped zab and tata-----

but floyd was looking forward to a huge payday with oscar, and oscar was at that fight with floyd vs tata----and he saw what he took as weakness from floyd, and i guarantee you all, and i made this claim years ago on here, that oscar felt that the 147 pound weightclass for floyd was too much for him, so he decided to take him up to 154, and slow him down even more---which is why he put in that weight limit penalty---if floyd doesn't weight at least 4 pounds under 154, the fight is off---and of course oscar chooses the ring size, gets the purse, chooses the gloves, maybe even the judge who gave oscar the 115-113 decision over floyd(tommy kaszmerick---i know i spelled his last name wrong once again-lol), but the one thing oscar couldn't choose was the skill to beat floyd----floyd buckled oscar, used oscar's rhythm and pace against him, while being hammered by the commentary outside, for not being more exciting and whatnot----i mean, this is all that happened daddio----

someone told you to learn the politics of the sport---it does matter----pay attention---i have----

floyd is treated very unfair, but as long as he keeps on making it do what it do, none of this criticism matter---because the performance doesn't lie----the numbers don't lie-----floyd didn't duck margarito and cotto and shane and kosta and hatton-----deal with it----

Good post. We can do the same with who Pac fought also, but I didn't want to waste my time with his infantile ranting. Glad you did though lol. You responded to a poster who found out that Floyd...on national television told fans that he cheated in fights by injecting his hands...lol...

[pbftxrs316]

Good post. We can do the same with who Pac fought also, but I didn't want to waste my time with his infantile ranting. Glad you did though lol. You responded to a poster who found out that Floyd...on national television told fans that he cheated in fights by injecting his hands...lol...

i know-lol---i don't mind going int great detail with my posts----i have done so, so many times----it's funny how floyd hurt his hands fighting zab and tata, fought corley and gatti in atlantic city, which is in a state, that those numbing agents are illegal in, and i know, i live in new jersey----he brings up a video from 2002, which i saw on tv, and tries to argue his point----but, think about this though---if floyd admitted to using numbing agents the day of the fight, why in God's name was he not suspended, banned, fined, ect? i bet he can't answer this logically-----

[big_james10]

Floyd Mayweather has been at welter for 5 years now. The top guys in that division in that time have been / are: Paul Williams, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Joshua Clottey, Kermit Cintron, Antonio Margarito and more recently Pacman. Now how many of those names does Floyd have on his resume? The answer is 1. I rest my case.

You are an idiot. When Floyd moved up to welterweight, the best guys at that division were Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir. He beat both of them. Cotto was still fighting at 140 at the time. Mosley was at 154 at the time and no one gave a damn or thought highly of Paul Williams, Margarito, Clottey or Cintron. After Mayweather retired, Margarito, Williams and Cotto emerged. Cotto turned the fight down at 140. Mosley moved back down in weight, but turned the fight with Mayweather down in 2006. He hasn't ducked anyone. If you want to talk about ducking, you should mention Cotto ducking Williams and Pac ducking Williams and Mosley and Bradley and Alexander to face a journeyman named Clottey..

[Killa Killa]

Epic Thread!! Props!!!

[gqjohnb]

Floyd Mayweather has been at welter for 5 years now. The top guys in that division in that time have been / are: Paul Williams, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Joshua Clottey, Kermit Cintron, Antonio Margarito and more recently Pacman. Now how many of those names does Floyd have on his resume? The answer is 1. I rest my case.

Joshua Clottey, Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron have never been on the top of the division bro... and Margarito was on top for a hot second before shane whooped that ass and he got caught cheating so lets be clear. Now Miguel Cotto you have a case that fight should have happened a long time ago and if the pac fight doesn't happen then there's a point too. Floyd earned his chops before he even got to the WW and when the guy got here he beat the tops of the division and then beat the best LMW at the time. If you want to be mad that he hasn't fought everybody thats on you but don't bull shi+. I'll be just as pissed as you if the Pac fight doesn't happen i'll be just as pissed as you.

[MurderDeathKill]

All anybody cares about aside from the current Pac debacle is Margarito and Cotto. Other than that Floyd did what he needed to do resume wise. The fact that people don't like him makes it easier for them to **** on his resume when it really ain't that bad.

[gqjohnb]

your points are so shallow man----think a little bit more logically cowboy----did manny not fight clottey? didn't clottey lose to cotto? so what if he fought and beat cotto first----baldomir lost every round to floyd---and judah put up a much better fight----didn't manny fight eric after eric lost to raheem? are youu ignoring these facts----it's not only the money, it's the threat and competition---zab losing to tata showed us that you can never underestimate any fighter---zab did---there's a reason zab's not where floyd is-----did cotto not fight zab after he lost to floyd, came off of a year suspension, and went to a nc in his first fight back, and took cotto 11 rounds? yes he did------

and you minus well give it a rest with the whole floyd and kosta fight----floyd wanted a ppv fight with a champion in gatti, and by the time that fight was made, and floyd dealing with his legal issues, and whatnot, kosta had already signed to fight hatton, lost to hatton, retired---hatton came out and said that he didn't want to fight floyd yet, he wasn't ready-----vivian harris lost to maussa, who cotto beat, and harris lost on the mayweather/gatti undercard---he was ko'ed---he lost his shot----arum kept cotto far away from floyd---he threw margairto at floyd coz tony wasn't a big name like cotto, and that's why floyd didn't fight margarito, coz arum was screwing him out of big money fights with bigger names----that whole 8 million dollar to fight margarito was bs----floyd would have gotten hounded by the mass for fighting margarito, especially seeing how people started to claim he was ducking baldomir, who had just ko'ed gatti, and they wanted to see him fight floyd----floyd wasn't even going to fight tata---he wanted de la hoya at the time remember? he thought they were fighting in september---when oscar decided he wasn't ready for floyd yet, floyd tried to make a fight with, not baldomir, shane mosley---but mosley's tooth was loose and he wanted a vacation----and he advised floyd should fight margarito---basically saying, he thought margarito would take something out of floyd, which he wouldn't have, except more money----coz that fight wouldn't have outsold mayweather vs baldomir for the official ww championship---floyd was smart as **** for doing what he did-----

his performance against tata gave de la hoya an incentive to believe he could beat floyd---coz floyd played it safe and potshotted his way to victory---this is when all of the criticism came centerfold----floyd was then called a ducker, a runner in the ring, just listen to the commentary----larry merchant was so into floyd when he fought judah, claiming, he can outbox you, he can outbrawl you, he canpunch you, he can outhtink you, and all of that mess, and so was jim lampley, saying floyd is a great fighter, and the more you watch him, the more you appreciate it right after saying the number 1 p4p fighter in the sport----all of a sudden, i don't know if floyd said anything to rub them the wrong way, the next fight, larry, jim, and the puppet on the string himself, manny steward were bashing floyd like no other----calling him boring and whatnot, when just a fight ago, he was throwing combinations, walking zab down, and more----and had floyd not hurt his hands(there you go all of the dumbies on here claiming floyd cheats with that xylidocine injection ****), floyd would and could have stopped zab and tata-----

but floyd was looking forward to a huge payday with oscar, and oscar was at that fight with floyd vs tata----and he saw what he took as weakness from floyd, and i guarantee you all, and i made this claim years ago on here, that oscar felt that the 147 pound weightclass for floyd was too much for him, so he decided to take him up to 154, and slow him down even more---which is why he put in that weight limit penalty---if floyd doesn't weight at least 4 pounds under 154, the fight is off---and of course oscar chooses the ring size, gets the purse, chooses the gloves, maybe even the judge who gave oscar the 115-113 decision over floyd(tommy kaszmerick---i know i spelled his last name wrong once again-lol), but the one thing oscar couldn't choose was the skill to beat floyd----floyd buckled oscar, used oscar's rhythm and pace against him, while being hammered by the commentary outside, for not being more exciting and whatnot----i mean, this is all that happened daddio----

someone told you to learn the politics of the sport---it does matter----pay attention---i have----

floyd is treated very unfair, but as long as he keeps on making it do what it do, none of this criticism matter---because the performance doesn't lie----the numbers don't lie-----floyd didn't duck margarito and cotto and shane and kosta and hatton-----deal with it----

Man your a good one for writing all this because they are all facts that are known by many and have been said but tomorrow somebody else will say some shi+ without knowing this... you should keep this post on copy and paste.

[pbftxrs316]

Man your a good one for writing all this because they are all facts that are known by many and have been said but tomorrow somebody else will say some shi+ without knowing this... you should keep this post on copy and paste.

don't worry i will---people usually skim through my posts and respond to them by saying, i ain't reading all of that-----and that's what usually happens---so i don't mind them doing that---that's how i know, that my posts mean something, because if people actually read it, they know i'm not posting bs----the ones who make claims like it's too long, respond by saying just that as their argument---it doesn't bother me at all---people can read this and it can make all of the sense in the world, but still, they will feel how they want to feel you know?

[Walterson]

your points are so shallow man----think a little bit more logically cowboy----did manny not fight clottey? didn't clottey lose to cotto? so what if he fought and beat cotto first----baldomir lost every round to floyd---and judah put up a much better fight----didn't manny fight eric after eric lost to raheem? are youu ignoring these facts----it's not only the money, it's the threat and competition---zab losing to tata showed us that you can never underestimate any fighter---zab did---there's a reason zab's not where floyd is-----did cotto not fight zab after he lost to floyd, came off of a year suspension, and went to a nc in his first fight back, and took cotto 11 rounds? yes he did------

and you minus well give it a rest with the whole floyd and kosta fight----floyd wanted a ppv fight with a champion in gatti, and by the time that fight was made, and floyd dealing with his legal issues, and whatnot, kosta had already signed to fight hatton, lost to hatton, retired---hatton came out and said that he didn't want to fight floyd yet, he wasn't ready-----vivian harris lost to maussa, who cotto beat, and harris lost on the mayweather/gatti undercard---he was ko'ed---he lost his shot----arum kept cotto far away from floyd---he threw margairto at floyd coz tony wasn't a big name like cotto, and that's why floyd didn't fight margarito, coz arum was screwing him out of big money fights with bigger names----that whole 8 million dollar to fight margarito was bs----floyd would have gotten hounded by the mass for fighting margarito, especially seeing how people started to claim he was ducking baldomir, who had just ko'ed gatti, and they wanted to see him fight floyd----floyd wasn't even going to fight tata---he wanted de la hoya at the time remember? he thought they were fighting in september---when oscar decided he wasn't ready for floyd yet, floyd tried to make a fight with, not baldomir, shane mosley---but mosley's tooth was loose and he wanted a vacation----and he advised floyd should fight margarito---basically saying, he thought margarito would take something out of floyd, which he wouldn't have, except more money----coz that fight wouldn't have outsold mayweather vs baldomir for the official ww championship---floyd was smart as **** for doing what he did-----

his performance against tata gave de la hoya an incentive to believe he could beat floyd---coz floyd played it safe and potshotted his way to victory---this is when all of the criticism came centerfold----floyd was then called a ducker, a runner in the ring, just listen to the commentary----larry merchant was so into floyd when he fought judah, claiming, he can outbox you, he can outbrawl you, he canpunch you, he can outhtink you, and all of that mess, and so was jim lampley, saying floyd is a great fighter, and the more you watch him, the more you appreciate it right after saying the number 1 p4p fighter in the sport----all of a sudden, i don't know if floyd said anything to rub them the wrong way, the next fight, larry, jim, and the puppet on the string himself, manny steward were bashing floyd like no other----calling him boring and whatnot, when just a fight ago, he was throwing combinations, walking zab down, and more----and had floyd not hurt his hands(there you go all of the dumbies on here claiming floyd cheats with that xylidocine injection ****), floyd would and could have stopped zab and tata-----

but floyd was looking forward to a huge payday with oscar, and oscar was at that fight with floyd vs tata----and he saw what he took as weakness from floyd, and i guarantee you all, and i made this claim years ago on here, that oscar felt that the 147 pound weightclass for floyd was too much for him, so he decided to take him up to 154, and slow him down even more---which is why he put in that weight limit penalty---if floyd doesn't weight at least 4 pounds under 154, the fight is off---and of course oscar chooses the ring size, gets the purse, chooses the gloves, maybe even the judge who gave oscar the 115-113 decision over floyd(tommy kaszmerick---i know i spelled his last name wrong once again-lol), but the one thing oscar couldn't choose was the skill to beat floyd----floyd buckled oscar, used oscar's rhythm and pace against him, while being hammered by the commentary outside, for not being more exciting and whatnot----i mean, this is all that happened daddio----

someone told you to learn the politics of the sport---it does matter----pay attention---i have----

floyd is treated very unfair, but as long as he keeps on making it do what it do, none of this criticism matter---because the performance doesn't lie----the numbers don't lie-----floyd didn't duck margarito and cotto and shane and kosta and hatton-----deal with it----

awesome factual post!