6 years ago the fights that the boxing world were asking Mayweather to take were....

[ADP02]

Unfortunately, that writer did not know what happened after 2004 ... no crystal ball


- Mitchel - Why should Floyd fight the loser between Kostya Tszyu vs Mtchel (twice). Mitchel was even KOed.

- Floyd AGAIN fights Mitchel at WW but Mitchel had success at lower weights.

- Gatti - Out of prime and had too many wars already.

- Lost easily to Oscar in 2001.
- Floyd fought him in 2005!!!
- From 2005 - 2007, Gatti had a record of 3 losses and 1 win!!
- Gatti lost to Baldomir in 2006!!!

- Hatton - Hatton was a light welterweight

- Floyd fought Hatton as WW!!!

- Mosley - Way out of prime

- Was turning 39 when Floyd fought him
- Hadn't fought for 1.5 years when he faced Floyd
- Had PED testing with Floyd. Same Mosley?

- DelaHoya - Out of prime

- Heavily into Golden Boy Productions by then
- 3 years prior to fight against Floyd, had only a 6 round against Mayorga
- Prior to Mayorga, Lost 2 out of 3 fights. Could have been 3 losses as many believed Oscar lost against Sturm

- Judah - Had lost to Baldomir and looked terrible prior to facing Floyd

- Lost to Cotto and Clottey
- Better at lower weight divisions (lost and won against Spinks at WW ...that's it)

- Tzuyu - Never fought Floyd

Yeah, it is. I remember after Judah lost to Baldomir and Mayweather still went ahead with the fight, people were saying up and down how it was a duck and how he's scared of Baldomir, until her completely outclassed him, then Baldomir became a bum.

To even mention Baldomir as a threat is a joke .... and was not on the writer's list.


"AllEyesOpen", as I stated above, you have to look at the fighters and how they were at the time of the fight.

Example: Larry Holmes beat Ali up but was that really Ali? Just because you have a big name in your resume, it doesn't always mean something. Timing, that is, when you fight the opponent and their condition, is even more important.

When Floyd fought some of these guys with names they were not the fighter that made them who they were .... while some of the others listed had other issues as I stated above.

[AllEyesOpen]

To even mention Baldomir as a threat is a joke .... and was not on the writer's list.


"AllEyesOpen", as I stated above, you have to look at the fighters and how they were at the time of the fight.

Example: Larry Holmes beat Ali up but was that really Ali? Just because you have a big name in your resume, it doesn't always mean something. Timing, that is, when you fight the opponent and their condition, is even more important.

When Floyd fought some of these guys with names they were not the fighter that made them who they were .... while some of the others listed had other issues as I stated above.

Mayweather was already planning to fight Judah, the Baldomir loss was not expected, yet he still fought them both. Hatton beat Tzuyu, Mayweather wanted the fight but Hatton was not ready, his team said it at the time. Again you can look back and claim these guys were weak, but they had titles and were considered the best at and around 147 when he fought them. Gatti may have been old but he was still champ, Spinks had lost to Judah. Judah was a solid opponent at ww when he was focused.

I'm not mentioning baldomir as a threat, i just remember people saying that fighting Judah was an attempt to duck Baldomir who beat Judah.

Fact is wether you'd thought they were great opponents or not, they were at the top of the 140-147 lbs division when he fought them, looking back it's easy to say they were weak opponents but Mayweather didn' give them the titles he just fought them for it.

[BirdSong]

hhhhhhmmmm that article doesnt explain why floyd retired in 2007 without having faced any of the top WW's at the time, who were, cotto, williams, mosley and cheato and all of them looking to fight him, all huge fights too

His line that cotto needed to get his ppv numbers up didnt help him either as there was nothing wrong with cottos ppv attraction as his fight with pac proved even AFTER his 0 was taken by plaster boy

Telling us that mosley didnt want a fight years ago so why should he get one now wasnt great either

All in all floyd retired from a very hot division and if anybody does that they can expect a lot of flack, if someone else did it they would get it too....

On top of that hes fond of telling people hes the best EVER and if he was why not take on the biggest challenges and do what everybody else at WW was doing, not avoid williams, if he did those things 95% of people would be off his back, so i dont know why his diehards are always complaining about it, its his own fault

[ADP02]

Mayweather was already planning to fight Judah, the Baldomir loss was not expected, yet he still fought them both. Hatton beat Tzuyu, Mayweather wanted the fight but Hatton was not ready, his team said it at the time. Again you can look back and claim these guys were weak, but they had titles and were considered the best at and around 147 when he fought them. Gatti may have been old but he was still champ, Spinks had lost to Judah. Judah was a solid opponent at ww when he was focused.

I'm not mentioning baldomir as a threat, i just remember people saying that fighting Judah was an attempt to duck Baldomir who beat Judah.

Fact is wether you'd thought they were great opponents or not, they were at the top of the 140-147 lbs division when he fought them, looking back it's easy to say they were weak opponents but Mayweather didn' give them the titles he just fought them for it.

Planning to fight Judah but he lost ..... he also planned to fight Margo, Manny but he managed to say no for whatever reason so to say no, at the time, against Judah would have been the best route until Judah shapes up.
When you fight the loser of the fight then what does that say? Did you even see how bad Judah looked against Baldo? Floyd must have been laughing ...... Same with Mitchel vs Kostya....... Floyd fought again the loser ....

Who wanted the Baldo fight instead of Margo? Only Floyd!!!

Hatton lived at 140 but for you it was a big risk for Floyd at 147 where Hatton did nothing much? Same with Mitchel ......

The rest I already stated in my other post.

[4Eyez226]

Unfortunately, that writer did not know what happened after 2004 ... no crystal ball


- Mitchel - Why should Floyd fight the loser between Kostya Tszyu vs Mtchel (twice). Mitchel was even KOed.

- Floyd AGAIN fights Mitchel at WW but Mitchel had success at lower weights.

- Gatti - Out of prime and had too many wars already.

- Lost easily to Oscar in 2001.
- Floyd fought him in 2005!!!
- From 2005 - 2007, Gatti had a record of 3 losses and 1 win!!
- Gatti lost to Baldomir in 2006!!!

- Hatton - Hatton was a light welterweight

- Floyd fought Hatton as WW!!!

- Mosley - Way out of prime

- Was turning 39 when Floyd fought him
- Hadn't fought for 1.5 years when he faced Floyd
- Had PED testing with Floyd. Same Mosley?

- DelaHoya - Out of prime

- Heavily into Golden Boy Productions by then
- 3 years prior to fight against Floyd, had only a 6 round against Mayorga
- Prior to Mayorga, Lost 2 out of 3 fights. Could have been 3 losses as many believed Oscar lost against Sturm

- Judah - Had lost to Baldomir and looked terrible prior to facing Floyd

- Lost to Cotto and Clottey
- Better at lower weight divisions (lost and won against Spinks at WW ...that's it)

- Tzuyu - Never fought Floyd

This thread has been closed for a while now.

[Vito Corleone]

I disagree, if he had taken Marg they would say he was ducking Baldo, which many did while he was choosing who he would face. Honestly, the one I will give you is Cotto at 147. He didn't want to deal with Arum but so what, they were both undefeated and this was right after he beat Hatton. He chose DLH in a rematch instead of Cotto and that one, as a fan of Floyd, really made me shake my head.

In fact, there's a Brian Kenny interview where Floyd was questioned why he wasn't fighting Baldo.

[Vito Corleone]

Unfortunately, that writer did not know what happened after 2004 ... no crystal ball


- Mitchel - Why should Floyd fight the loser between Kostya Tszyu vs Mtchel (twice). Mitchel was even KOed.

- Floyd AGAIN fights Mitchel at WW but Mitchel had success at lower weights.

- Gatti - Out of prime and had too many wars already.

- Lost easily to Oscar in 2001.
- Floyd fought him in 2005!!!
- From 2005 - 2007, Gatti had a record of 3 losses and 1 win!!
- Gatti lost to Baldomir in 2006!!!

- Hatton - Hatton was a light welterweight

- Floyd fought Hatton as WW!!!

- Mosley - Way out of prime

- Was turning 39 when Floyd fought him
- Hadn't fought for 1.5 years when he faced Floyd
- Had PED testing with Floyd. Same Mosley?

- DelaHoya - Out of prime

- Heavily into Golden Boy Productions by then
- 3 years prior to fight against Floyd, had only a 6 round against Mayorga
- Prior to Mayorga, Lost 2 out of 3 fights. Could have been 3 losses as many believed Oscar lost against Sturm

- Judah - Had lost to Baldomir and looked terrible prior to facing Floyd

- Lost to Cotto and Clottey
- Better at lower weight divisions (lost and won against Spinks at WW ...that's it)

- Tzuyu - Never fought Floyd

LOL. This is a ridiculous post.

[Frank Ducketts]

People really don't understand the deep rift between Floyd and Arum over money and big fights then. People didn't understand why Dlh broke from Arum either. The promoter was making too much money period. Until you understand how business is done in boxing, you can't sit here and make any sane boxing fan believe that Floyd avoided AM or Cotto with Floyd's talent. Some fans can't understand why Floyd left Arum. Arum had no vision for Floyd, and Dlh saw a few of his pay checks and decided that Arum got too much money. I hope Pac does not find out the hard way after his boxing days are over. Arum needs to retire...

[pbftxrs316]

People always like to look back and say Mayweather didn't fight the best, but in the end Mayweather didn't make Gatti the champ at 140, Hatton beat Kostya but he wasn't ready for Mayweather at 140. He wasn't responsible for Judah beating Spinks or being later beaten by Baldomir. What he did was beat Judah, Bladomir, Gatti, DLH & Hatton, the best at or around 147 at the time.

As for Cotto & Marg, at the time it wasn't very likely because of Arum and he still beat Baldomir to become the last unified lineal champ at 147 & DLH for the 154 title.

and how many times has cotto fought for vacant titles? let's not forget---floyd dominating him, which he would have done, but bob arum wanted cotto to have no part of floyd, and cotto always says, i fight who they put in front of me, arum said hell no, you ain't fighting floyd----i need you cotto to stay undefeated, floyd will end that quick----floyd wanted cotto for 10 million, thik about it---cotto surpassed margarito quickly in terms of drawing power---margarito still can't draw to save his life----****, the ****er can't even trace----he thinks him calling out floyd is his claim to fame-----floyd didn't lose his p4p crown not fighting margarito-----i guarantee you floyd would have dusted off tony and still not gotten credit for it----it's so easy to say he didn't fight this guy or that guy, but had he fought this guy or that guy, it would be, he hadn't fought him at this time, or him at this time, even if his opponent was the one ducking him ala----mosley, hatton, wright, and de la hoya----

for such a predicted mismatch when floyd beat gatti, nobody wanted any parts of him----by that time, kosta lost to hatton, hatton wasn't ready for floyd, even admitted it---cotto came to 2 fights back to back that floyd fought, and looked shook---he still hasn't called out floyd when it counts----margarito was a nobody---baldomir was the ww champion when floyd fought him---these fighters love to let the media hound floyd because of floyd's persona, that way the fighters can say, well, even though i ducked floyd, the media will spin it to blame floyd anyway for it, so i'm off the hook-----bull****---and of course their fans will follow their lead----

floyd has dominated these guys and made it look so easy his whole career---never fought for vacated titles---never fought for titles at catchweights---fought for wbc championships in every weight division-----dominated champions, whether former, current, or future champions, and still, gets no credit---if i were him, i would fight for only money too----it seems like fighting for fans and legacy is getting him nowhere-----yet, they have no choice but to rank him top of the p4p lists or number 2-----i mean, these same critics who bash him for fighting jmm, puts him behind manny on their
p4p lists----or after he beats that old man shane who duusted off that margarito dude, who stopped cotto, who was found cheating, meaning, how long has he been cheating for, floyd dominates him, and they have no choice but to rank him the ww champion, even though he didn't fight for shane's title----i bet had he fought for shane's title, he would be considered the undisputed ww champion--manny cannot be considered the ww champion in my book fighting at a catchweight for a 147 pound title-----floyd is the ww champion of the world, once again, and once again, he dominated the ww champion----

floyd is the best fighter of his era, period, and after he spanks manny, and all of the insults start once again, i will sit back and smile, and just say, who's next-----

[pbftxrs316]

vito, yes there is, and why he didn't fight hatton at 140, and floyd said, his father said he wasn't ready---now, seeing how ricky is the fighter, i bet, that message his rather relayed to the media, came from ricky's mouth----which it did----