Do floyd fans understand what a weight-penalty is?

[The Big Dunn]

What do you mean he couldn't. That's part of the negotiation. If Cotto said no, then negotiation continues.

IF COTTO SAYS NO THE FIGHT DOESN'T HAPPEN. Cotto was going to make his biggest payday ever. So he had to say yes to 145.

Look, Manny is as big a a$$hole as floyd or ODH when he has the leverage and the power. He doesn't have it against floyd. If he wants to make the biggest payday of his career then he has to do like cotto did or floyd (vs ODH). Manny is no different then anyone else.

[Calilloyd]

There is a limit. Again, he knows what Mayweather did against JMM, he just doesn't want that to happen to him. simple.

What Mayweather "did" to JMM wouldn't be an issue with Pacquiao because they would be fighting at 147. When has Mayweather come in over the welterweight limit in a title fight?

[RubenSonny]

The OST was not even discussed until Manny mentioned about the 10mil penalty. That's when Floyd asked for the random testing.

no floyd had it in the proposed contract from the start, please prove otherwise.

[Jo94403]

No they wouldnt have continued. Because Pacquiao was only going to fight Cotto with a catchweight. The original request was 143 and they negotiated to 145. It wasn't for Cotto's benefit and there was not going to be a fight at 147.

Because Manny knew Cotto can make the 145 weight. Cotto came in at 146 for Clottey. Cotto even had an interview that he said that he can make 145 weight.

[RubenSonny]

both floyd and pac are hypocritical and both can get away with it against less fighters like delahoya used to because they are the draws. But these two are equal no matter what anyone says, and the fact remains that floyd cheated the weight and the weight penalties is justifiable, pacs has never cheated so he has the right to say no.

agreed about the hypocrisy. floyd is the greater draw, numbers dont lie. my point was that his excuse about the commission is bogus.

[V.WEBB]

Because Manny knew Cotto can make the 145 weight. Cotto came in at 146 for Clottey. Cotto even had an interview that he said that he can make 145 weight.

He should have fought Miguel at 147. Heck he had fought Oscar at 147 and weighed in more than Oscar on fight night.

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=Jo94403;8592850]Because Manny knew Cotto can make the 145 weight. Cotto came in at 146 for Clottey. Cotto even had an interview that he said that he can make 145 weight.[/QUOTE]





I'll ask again, why was it necessary?

[Jo94403]

IF COTTO SAYS NO THE FIGHT DOESN'T HAPPEN. Cotto was going to make his biggest payday ever. So he had to say yes to 145.

Look, Manny is as big a a$$hole as floyd or ODH when he has the leverage and the power. He doesn't have it against floyd. If he wants to make the biggest payday of his career then he has to do like cotto did or floyd (vs ODH). Manny is no different then anyone else.

Manny did that and accepted a little bit over 30% against Oscar. But now he feels that he is in the same level.

This fight will be the biggest for both of them. Not just Manny.

[RubenSonny]

The OST was not even discussed until Manny mentioned about the 10mil penalty. That's when Floyd asked for the random testing.

excuse after excuse admit hes a hypocrit.

[Eaner0919]

This^^^^^^^

If it's contractual, commision rules are out!

I think this is what Floyd stans don't get.

so then what do you call Floyd's um "stip"?