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  • Originally posted by Ray* View Post

    I dont even know why we are debating this, Every fan should want a better cleaner sport, I dont care if people dont like Mayweather,Pacquiao,De la hoya or Wladimir Klitschko..Its better for the sport and lets start somewhere.

    So why get emotional about it and start questioning why 14 days cut off isnt good enough or why did Mayweather-Mosley didnt get tested 18 or so before the fight Why question it if you're in support of better testing?

    And yeah i agree with " The ball is in Pacquiao's court" by a guy who doesnt even like Mayweather (Kinney).
    how is adding USADA in boxing better for the sport when they are a bunch of crooks?.......

    Bill Shimizu
    Detroit Boxing Examiner
    May 22, 7:44 PM



    Now that the genie is out of the bottle, or to put it simply, the results of the controversial random Olympic- style drug testing supposedly conducted on both Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Shane Mosley en route to their May 1st welterweight fight are now released to the public, a lot of people are crying out and shaking their heads in disbelief- that the much publicized drug testing conducted on the two fighters by the U.S. Anti- Doping Agency (USADA) is nothing but a sham.

    Now, any boxing fan out there is aware that the negotiations for the Manny Pacquiao- Floyd Mayweather, Jr. mega fight bogged down because of differences in the cut off date of the so- called random Olympic- style drug testing which focused mainly on blood testing wherein the camp of Manny Pacquiao proposed a 24- day cutoff plus one right after the fight to which the Floyd Mayweather, Jr. camp countered with its last offer of a 14- day cutoff.

    The USADA report currently circulating around various media outlets revealed that both fighters were tested a total of seven times including one for blood and urine after the fight, but the most telling of which were the April 12 & 13 cutoff dates for blood tests conducted on Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. respectively which were about +/- 18 days before fight night.

    So, where is the promise that they will conduct the said blood tests anytime up until the night before fight night? Where and when did the “leveling the playing field” dogma come into play in this case? Isn’t it a complete disservice to boxing that, despite the hype and publicity, they failed to back up their claims considering that Shane Mosley is a confessed performance- enhancing drugs (PEDs) user in the past?

    Some people will point out that the 18- day blood testing cutoff in the Mayweather- Mosley is immaterial since the focus should be on the word “random” and therefore even if the USADA cutoff period was 18 days before fight night, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Shane Mosley had no idea that they will not be tested again after the said date, which would be enough deterrent for them not to cheat. Yet, these same people were also the ones who were very vocal that a fighter can take PEDs and wash them completely out of one’s system in a little less than 24 hours afterwards.

    Thus, on the basis of that questionable rationale above, Travis Tygart, the chief executive officer of the USADA, concluded that both Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Shane Mosley passed the random Olympic- style drug testing conducted by his agency and that the two fighters were clean athletes and “consummate professionals throughout the entire process.”

    But if Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Travis Tygart and company think that the boxing public will buy this flimsy and illogical reasoning then they are absolutely mistaken. If Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Travis Tygart and company were able to sell the promise of random Olympic- style testing to gullible people in the past, this time they will be hard put to repeat their success for the boxing public are now aware of their brand of double talk. If Floyd Maywether, Jr., Travis Tygart and company believed that they can come out of this debacle unscathed, then they are absolutely wrong.

    “It’s rather disappointing to learn that Money May and this USADA tried to pull a fast one on us. They thought that they can just easily get away from it that’s why. But we know better“ -- Marcus V. Detroit, MI

    Contrary to some opinions, boxing fans are not dumb people who are not capable of seeing behind the smoke screen that they are being short-changed, and their intellect challenged to let people like Floyd Mayweather, Jr, Travis Tygart and company get away with it. And contrary to some stereotypes, boxing fans are not a bunch of "punched drunks" to let people like Floyd Mayweather, Jr, Travis Tygart and company fool them and continue to insult their intelligence when it is obvious that they are being taken for a ride.

    This random Olympic-style drug testing charade being perpetrated by Floyd Mayweather, Jr, in cooperation with USADA’s Travis Tygart, has to stop. This comedy show run by Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in cooperation with USADA’s Travis Tygart has to end.

    Travis Tygart and the USADA have no place in professional sports and they need to clean up their own backyard first, which is literally and figuratively littered with PEDs and cheaters of all colors and sizes before snooping on the business of others. When that time comes, then they can have the moral authority to look on the other side of the fence. But for now, they better stay home and mind their own business.

    So, If Floyd Mayweather, Jr. wants to “clean up boxing” then he should take up his case to the proper authority that has proper jurisdiction over the said PEDs issues like the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) or any other state commissions and let them decide on the matter.

    Oh by the way, what kind of a boxing fan are you?

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    • This thread i great............i have already added 2 more users to my ignore list.........

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      • Originally posted by Toxic View Post
        Do you have proof that they did not know it?

        Or maybe only Shane did not know it
        do you have proof that they/floyd did? the idea of random testing and the use of the USADA is that nobody knows when the tests will be or how many there will be, what reason is there to think that isnt true...

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        • I can't believe that a former crackhead started all this and now everyone is following this like little puppies, Floyd Sr. must be laughing his ass off...

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          • Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
            If you want to start somewhere, then you should start from the commission to establish a stricter set of protocols for drug testing with consultation from various anti-doping agency like USADA. Which is what they are doin' right now. The first step must come from the governing head. The same case when it was implemented in baseball, cycling, and in all other sports. You dont start from athlete and then move your way up to the commission to make it standard for all.

            And the testing agency should not be USADA but the NSAC because we are dealing with professional athletes. NHL, NFL, MLB, and the NBA rely in its on commission to conduct testing, which is understandable since they know the athletes and the sport more than any outside agency. If they want to keep USADA in a supervisory level then so be it but I dont think USADA should be forcing themselves in to this issue when clearly NSAC can implement and establish the procedure better the sport it governs. But ofcourse it would need advise from USADA as well. Its up to the NSAC to keep the balance between the fighters health and conditioning while monitoring and makin' sure that the athlete is clean.
            This is a very good way forward, And am glad the NSAC are scheduling a meeting where they are going to meet the USADA and talk about a way forward in cleaning the sport, I also agree that the NSAC should be the ones who oversee the whole process but they might need guidance in a few fights first before they go it alone.

            And then it need to spread across all countries where boxing is participated in.

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            • Originally posted by CharliesRecords View Post
              I can't believe that a former crackhead started all this and now everyone is following this like little puppies, Floyd Sr. must be laughing his ass off...
              even idiots have idiot followers!.....the mayweathers aint the only idiots of the wordl!

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              • Originally posted by check hook View Post
                This thread i great............i have already added 2 more users to my ignore list.........
                Dude, ignore button are only for bitches. If you can't take the heat, get out of the ganja bonfire.

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                • Originally posted by check hook View Post
                  This thread i great............i have already added 2 more users to my ignore list.........
                  I must say, I've never been an advocate of the ignore feature. But ever since I added pullcounter to it, my reading experience has been so much better. Had to throw in alibaba and baracuda for good measure.

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                  • Originally posted by Ray* View Post

                    I dont even know why we are debating this, Every fan should want a better cleaner sport, I dont care if people dont like Mayweather,Pacquiao,De la hoya or Wladimir Klitschko..Its better for the sport and lets start somewhere.

                    So why get emotional about it and start questioning why 14 days cut off isnt good enough or why did Mayweather-Mosley didnt get tested 18 or so before the fight Why question it if you're in support of better testing?

                    And yeah i agree with " The ball is in Pacquiao's court" by a guy who doesnt even like Mayweather (Kinney).
                    Yea that's the reason I keep expressing his (Kinney) feelings on the situation. Thanks for the correction on "Kinney".... I keep tying Kennedy lol.

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                    • I think i need to update my ingore list like Checkhook and Imdazed, I really cant take the level of ******ness thats coming from some of these Pacquiao fans..

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