Top 100 ATG's

[Bhopreign]

What is ATG?

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[Spray_resistant]

If you dont take skills into account I imagine you take who they beat into account and not the numerous no names JCC beat. Name JCC's good/great wins.

Anyone can go to boxrec and judge the names for themselves. If you don't view many or any of hem as good I doubt I am going to be able to convince you.

I know I have been nutthugging JC today with my thread about him and having watched several of his fights earlier but he beat the good fighters he beat them in impressive fashion. Take Camacho for instance, won every round against him and didn't just win but really beat him up in that fight.

Sure he has alot of softies I will give you that but going 89-0 with like 75 stoppages and leaving the sport a 100+ fight vet at least trying to avenge all but one of his losses impresses me.

[adrian16]

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thanks

[RubenSonny]

My Top 100 ATG's

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Wille Pep
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson

11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Joe Gans
16. Sam Langford
17. Julio Cesar Chavez
18. Barney Ross
19. Stanley Ketchel

20. Jimmy Wilde
21, Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Thomas Hearns
24. Ezzard Charles
25. Benny Leonard
26. Manny Pacquiao
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Eder Jofre
29. Emile Griffith

30. Terry McGovern
31. George Foreman
32. Johnny Dundee
33. Jose Napoles
34. Pascual Perez
35. Billy Conn
36. Wilfredo Gomez
37. Joe Frazier
38. Tommy Loughran
39. Sandy Saddler

40. Marvin Hagler
41. Joe Walcott (The original)
42. Evander Holyfield
43. George Dixon
44. Maxie Rosenbloom
45. Larry Holmes
46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
47. Kid Chocolate
48. Floyd Mayweather
49. Ruben Olivares

50. Alexis Arguello
51. Battling Nelson
52. Beau Jack
53. Ricardo Lopez
54. John L. Sullivan
55. Carlos Monzon
56. Salvador Sanchez
57. Carmen Basillio
58. Pete Herman
59. Wilfredo Benitez

60. Ike Williams
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Jack Britton
63. Eric Morales
64. Pancho Villa
65. Marco Antonio Barrera
66. Bob Fitszimmons
67. Bernard Hopkins
68. Tiger Flowers
69. James J.Corbett

70. Tony Zale
71. Roy Jones Jr.
72. Georges Carpentier
73, Felix Trinidad
74. "Kid" McCoy
75. Lennox Lewis
76. Freddie Welsh
77. Sonny Liston
78. Panama Al Brown
79. Eusebio Pedroza

80. Peter Jackson
81. **** Tiger
82. Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
83. Miguel Canto
84. James J. Jeffries
85. Carlos Ortiz
86. Bob Foster
87. Oscar De La Hoya
88. Aaron Pryor
89. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien

90. Juan Manuel Marquez
91. Charley Burley
92. Jersey Joe Walcott
93. Joe Calzaghe
94. Rocky Graziano
95. Jimmy Barry
96. Carlos Zarate
97. Rocky Marciano
98. Manuel Ortiz
99. Mike Tyson
100. Jim Driscoll

also why do you rank sandy saddler higher than kid gavilan?

[Bhopreign]

Anyone can go to boxrec and judge the names for themselves. If you don't view many or any of hem as good I doubt I am going to be able to convince you.

I know I have been nutthugging JC today with my thread about him and having watched several of his fights earlier but he beat the good fighters he beat them in impressive fashion. Take Camacho for instance, won every round against him and didn't just win but really beat him up in that fight.

Sure he has alot of softies I will give you that but going 89-0 with like 75 stoppages and leaving the sport a 100+ fight vet at least trying to avenge all but one of his losses impresses me.

89-0 is nothing if youre fighting a bum of the month campaign, Arum did it then and he does it these days with some popular fighters. If you have the following Chavez had back then and you could pack the place with a no name, there wasnt a reason to rush him into tough fights. Camacho is a good win for him, thats one.

[Bhopreign]

thanks

Lol man I was kidding, it stands for All-Time Great.

[JAB5239]

No young person can make a list like that and expect to be taken seriously is all Im saying.

Expect to be taken seriously by who, the other 2nd graders? I don't entirely agree with the list but it isn't bad. It must be easy for you to criticize others when you won't show a list of your own, huh?

[sigrab jr]

89-0 is nothing if youre fighting a bum of the month campaign, Arum did it then and he does it these days with some popular fighters. If you have the following Chavez had back then and you could pack the place with a no name, there wasnt a reason to rush him into tough fights. Camacho is a good win for him, thats one.

They're building his son to be just like him with 41-0 vs bums. His son will never be as good as him obviously.

[sigrab jr]

Expect to be taken seriously by who, the other 2nd graders? I don't entirely agree with the list but it isn't bad. It must be easy for you to criticize others when you won't show a list of your own, huh?

Ch@mp is only 17, I doubt he's really researched and watch all of those old fights and come up with that list himself. I bet you he has never watched a fight of more than half the fighters on that list.

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De La Hoya too low and Whitaker is too high...and I would have Floyd and RJJ and Bernard closer...Hagler higher than Evander? Hearns too high.....etc.

Not an awful list from the names I recognize...