Top 100 ATG's

[MONEYMAY-]

Talking about biasness!!

It's true.


Don't hate.


What makes pernells career THAT much greater than a man who could sell 130,000 tickets to see him fight?

[RubenSonny]

Mayweather belongs nowhere near that list.

His best win? A 38 year old no trigger pulling Shane Mosley??



GTFO..

I'd put Cotto in there before Mayweather. At least Cotto's fought everyone.

but he didnt beat everyone

[ChampBox@PR]

can you present an argument as to why calzaghes greater? btw i think they are both great fighters.

you brought it up, so present you agument

[NChristo]

Don't like the list, not going to criticize it because I haven't made my own to compare yet, but I know they're going to be largely different.

[Bhopreign]

It's true.


Don't hate.


What makes pernells career THAT much greater than a man who could sell 130,000 tickets to see him fight?

It can easily be argued that Pea only lost one fight and in that fight he didnt look bad he just had too much size against him and the fact he was past it.

[Spray_resistant]

It can easily be argued that Pea only lost one fight and in that fight he didnt look bad he just had too much size against him and the fact he was past it.

It could also be argued that JC had not lost a fight until he was a bit past it and in 114 pro fights only has unavenged L's to 3 different fighters when he was without a doubt past prime against those fighters.

I don't take skills into account when rating in this way and if you do fine and I could see how based on that Pernell could be rated above him but to me its all about wins, longevity, titles won.....

[RubenSonny]

you brought it up, so present you agument

his wins over walcott, charles, louis and moore are better than anything calzaghe ever did, simple as that.

[Mr. Fantastic]

My Top 100 ATG's

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Wille Pep
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson

11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Joe Gans
16. Sam Langford
17. Julio Cesar Chavez
18. Barney Ross
19. Stanley Ketchel

20. Jimmy Wilde
21, Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Thomas Hearns
24. Ezzard Charles
25. Benny Leonard
26. Manny Pacquiao
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Eder Jofre
29. Emile Griffith

30. Terry McGovern
31. George Foreman
32. Johnny Dundee
33. Jose Napoles
34. Pascual Perez
35. Billy Conn
36. Wilfredo Gomez
37. Joe Frazier
38. Tommy Loughran
39. Sandy Saddler

40. Marvin Hagler
41. Joe Walcott (The original)
42. Evander Holyfield
43. George Dixon
44. Maxie Rosenbloom
45. Larry Holmes
46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
47. Kid Chocolate
48. Floyd Mayweather
49. Ruben Olivares

50. Alexis Arguello
51. Battling Nelson
52. Beau Jack
53. Ricardo Lopez
54. John L. Sullivan
55. Carlos Monzon
56. Salvador Sanchez
57. Carmen Basillio
58. Pete Herman
59. Wilfredo Benitez

60. Ike Williams
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Jack Britton
63. Eric Morales
64. Pancho Villa
65. Marco Antonio Barrera
66. Bob Fitszimmons
67. Bernard Hopkins
68. Tiger Flowers
69. James J.Corbett

70. Tony Zale
71. Roy Jones Jr.
72. Georges Carpentier
73, Felix Trinidad
74. "Kid" McCoy
75. Lennox Lewis
76. Freddie Welsh
77. Sonny Liston
78. Panama Al Brown
79. Eusebio Pedroza

80. Peter Jackson
81. **** Tiger
82. Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
83. Miguel Canto
84. James J. Jeffries
85. Carlos Ortiz
86. Bob Foster
87. Oscar De La Hoya
88. Aaron Pryor
89. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien

90. Juan Manuel Marquez
91. Charley Burley
92. Jersey Joe Walcott
93. Joe Calzaghe
94. Rocky Graziano
95. Jimmy Barry
96. Carlos Zarate
97. Rocky Marciano
98. Manuel Ortiz
99. Mike Tyson
100. Jim Driscoll

I don't think you could even make a list. The only boxers you've ever seen fight are Rican and thier opponents.

You got the Sugar/ESPN list and switched a couple of names around.

[Bhopreign]

It could also be argued that JC had not lost a fight until he was a bit past it and in 114 pro fights only has unavenged L's to 3 different fighters when he was without a doubt past prime against those fighters.

I don't take skills into account when rating in this way and if you do fine and I could see how based on that Pernell could be rated above him but to me its all about wins, longevity, titles won.....

If you dont take skills into account I imagine you take who they beat into account and not the numerous no names JCC beat. Name JCC's good/great wins.

[adrian16]

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