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Pacquiao Is already a top 10 ATG, a win over Mayweather puts him ahead of SRR.

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  • The only one who doesn't want to recognize pac as one of the top 10 ATG are the haters... But this haters can do nothing to change the fact all they could do is to whine and cry......

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    • How many ATGs he faced in comparison to SRR? What's his record against them in comparison to SRR? How did he beat them?

      How many Hall of Famers has he faced in comparison to SRR? What's his record against them in comparison to SRR? How did he beat them?

      How many fighters in their respective primes at their best weights did he beat?

      He's not better than SRR in all these categories even if he beats Mayweather. The young prospect version of SRR was knocking out Henry Armstrong.

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      • Pac is the best of this time, and you cant ask for more than that. I havent seen all of SRR fights to be able to talk to knowledgeably about him. I saw him use some boxers as punch bags mostly. The one that was depicted in the film with him saying you never got me down ray.

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Pac is the best of this time, and you cant ask for more than that. I havent seen all of SRR fights to be able to talk to knowledgeably about him. I saw him use some boxers as punch bags mostly. The one that was depicted in the film with him saying you never got me down ray.
          Mr.Grant I'm going to have to say that Pac is one of the best of this time.It would be more fact if he fought Hoya,Mosley,Cotto and Mayweather in their primes.Problem is he did'int I don't totally blame him it is the way boxing is set up now.It's all about money so fight's don't get made when they should get made or sometime not at all.But I gotta say not only is Pac not in the same league at SRR SRL Hearns(these are just some great WW I'm putting here)he would loses badly to all three.These man fought in a time where you had to prove you was the top fighter all the time by fighting other top fighters cause there was only one belt.Now there are way's to dodge the best.Wait for somebody great to become old and then fight umm.I believe May and Pac are great fighters but I believe this apply to both of umm.Neither of these guy's are top ten Please stop fooling your self.

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          • Im a big fan of Pac, but Im also a realist. To all the delusional Pac fans, tell me how his resume is better than SRR, Greb, Armstrong, Langford, B, Leonard, Charles, Pep, Duran, R. Leonard, Ross, Louis, Ali, Canzoneri, McLarnin or Walker? Seems many people want to dismiss a lot of fighters to get Pac to the top. If you know about these fighters that will be no easy task.

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            • Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
              The only one who doesn't want to recognize pac as one of the top 10 ATG are the haters... But this haters can do nothing to change the fact all they could do is to whine and cry......
              tell you what since you constantly come on here and whine about people who critique Manny as nothing more than haters

              tell us why YOU think Manny is a top ten ATG

              tell us how he compares with the guys considered all time.

              break it down for us back up all your **** talking please

              because for the most part? you and your ilk LOVE to talk **** about other posters on here, LOVE to red K people just for disagreeing about dear old Manny, LOVE to talk about anything other than the sport

              so smart guy give us a break down of how Manny stacks up against the likes of SRR Armstrong Pep Duran

              compare each guys resume including the relevance of the fight NOT just the name (something I think a lot of Manny fans forget)

              so let's see what you got smart guy

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              • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                According to Ray Arcel he was the smartest ring tactician he ever saw. Said he could adjust to anything. For me its his footwork and punching precision. Even on old crappy ass film you can see how smooth he was.

                Now that I've taken your little test lets debate his resume compared to Pac's...shall we?
                Still waiting Rimmy, where are you?

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                • Originally posted by Boss2k10 View Post
                  Different eras of boxing.

                  If Pacquiao wins another title at 154 and beats Margarito OR just beats PBF.

                  Then what he would have achieved in this era would be more impressive than what SRR did in his. A flyweight beating WW will never ever happen again, a WW beating MW has happened before and will happen time and time again.
                  Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                  Just going to throw this out there as you mentioned a FW beating a WW will never happen again.

                  Where do you rate Barbados Joe Walcott ?, he was a WW beating HWs, which with the new rules is never going to happen again, a FW beating a WW is very much more likely.
                  Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
                  Georges Carpentier was a flyweight beating heavyweights. He must've been the greatest.
                  Guess we stumped him on his theory for Pac being the greatest because he beat a Welterweight while he was a Featherweight.

                  Wonder what he's going to come up with next.

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                  • pac would have a chance to beat hearns, but i doubt it goes past the 5th round before hearns kayos him. leanord vs pac would make for an interesting fight.

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                    • Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
                      The only one who doesn't want to recognize pac as one of the top 10 ATG are the haters... But this haters can do nothing to change the fact all they could do is to whine and cry......
                      Can you give me your top 15?

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