Does Marquez owe Pacquiao for his fame?

[MONEYMAY-]

he wasn't with gbp until recently.

if you want to blame someone. blame nacho.

That also, Why do you think Rafa until lately got rid of him. Nacho tries to be JMM promoter and also wants to be his full time manager which I think is bull**** since he makes so many rash decisions.

[Left Hook Tua]

Would he have even gotten the Floyd fight if he hadn't fought Pacquiao?

he would have gotten a 3rd pacquiao fight if it wasn't for floyd.



not the fact he lost to floyd but how gbp screwed him over in favor of floyd.

[Left Hook Tua]

That also, Why do you think Rafa until lately got rid of him. Nacho tries to be JMM promoter and also wants to be his full time manager which I think is bull**** since he makes so many rash decisions.

he could have fought morales before pacquiao.

he could have fought hamed before barrera.

not saying he could beat hamed or morales but those would have been big for his career if he could have.

[kadyo's]

Those were his two career defining fights but what really juan manuel must be thankful for is that going after pac in the higher division makes him defeat great fighters like juan diaz and joel casamayor. I mean without pac, marquez may have fought at 126-130 forever.

[MONEYMAY-]

he could have fought morales before pacquiao.

he could have fought hamed before barrera.

not saying he could beat hamed or morales but those would have been big for his career if he could have.

He beats Hamed... I can't see Hamed even beating someone with the caliber of JMM even at that age.



He could've had Pac 3 if it wasn't for Golden Boy and Mayweathers bull**** "OST stance" as well.


Nacho was the reason they fought chris john which I've ****ing disliked him ever since.

[ThePunchingBag]

he would have gotten a 3rd pacquiao fight if it wasn't for floyd.



not the fact he lost to floyd but how gbp screwed him over in favor of floyd.

Maybe, but the only reason Floyd fought Marquez was to establish some kind of idiotic triangle theory and send Pac a message that "Hey, I dominated the guy who gave you trouble" sort of thing.

That is at least what most experts were claiming. I don't know how many times Lampley mentioned that reference during the fight, but it was quite a few.

I think JMM would've retired by now if not for chasing Pac at the higher weights. Nacho or GBP was not giving him many good fights before Pac, so he had no reason to continue up until that point other than a weak paycheck or two.

[kadyo's]

he could have fought morales before pacquiao.

he could have fought hamed before barrera.

not saying he could beat hamed or morales but those would have been big for his career if he could have.

yeah had he took that morales, it could have good move for his career.

[Jack Napier]

Would he have even gotten the Floyd fight if he hadn't fought Pacquiao?

nope
he was riding that "real p4p #1" wave then
he wanted to steal Pac's thunder with that call out
of course, shameless Floyd ran out of retirement to accept it
the whole promotion was centered around Pac
Nacho shouldn't have allowed it
GBP saw $ signs, so they fed JMM to the wolves
Floyd knew he could ruin Pac-JMM 3 by picking on JMM
Nach is dumb, JMM is dumb, GBP did JMM like they did Marco

[immortal tech]

Maybe, but the only reason Floyd fought Marquez was to establish some kind of idiotic triangle theory and send Pac a message that "Hey, I dominated the guy who gave you trouble" sort of thing.

That is at least what most experts were claiming. I don't know how many times Lampley mentioned that reference during the fight, but it was quite a few.

I think JMM would've retired by now if not for chasing Pac at the higher weights. Nacho or GBP was not giving him many good fights before Pac, so he had no reason to continue up until that point other than a weak paycheck or two.

and here I thought it was because he was coming from that epic fight of the year win and being ranked 2 p4p

[ThePunchingBag]

and here I thought it was because he was coming from that epic fight of the year win and being ranked 2 p4p

You honestly didn't see any connection to Pac in the promotions for that fight, the media and in Floyd's own comments?

Why else would GBP throw JMM to the wolves like that?