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  • Originally posted by hitking View Post
    Cro, you know me better than that. And you also know I was calling for this fight when Mayweather was at welter and Pac at 130 because you busted my balls for it. That said, I understand business. I don't care what Mayweather makes. Hell, I wish they would fight for free so I could see the fight for free. But, boxing is a business, and everyone needs to understand that. You can't ask these guys to do something you wouldn't if put in a comparable situation.
    Like I said a couple of pages down.

    There is a difference between a Floyd fan who agrees that Floyd should get more money but thinks he should forget about that and take the fight with a 50/50 regardless for the greater interest of the sport.

    And the same Floyd fan who agrees on all the things above but will defend his position to get more money to no end, and looks out for Floyd's interests first rather than the Sports interest and what's best for boxing period.

    I'm the first part, I'm not disagreeing that technically by the numbers, Floyd should get more money. But i'm not gonna come in here and defend that position to no end like I have a stake in it. I'm a boxing fan first, so **** Floyd and him asking for more money when 50/50 is a perfectly good deal for both, and us BOXING FANS WIN and get what we want.

    If you don't share that same viewpoint, then it is what it is. There is no reason for you to give me a long response or this, a simple AGREE OR DISAGREE. There is nothing more to add to this.
    Last edited by cupocity303; 06-06-2010, 01:26 PM.

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    • Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
      How does it look on Manny, simple.. He is complying with the original negotiations which clearly shows interest in the fight and taking the test that really has nothing to do with the NSAC.. Pac has bended to Floyds original demand..

      Now if that bargain table is gone and Floyd demands more its obvious Floyd just doesnt want the fight..

      Why does Manny want to know ahead of time? F** if I know, and if you reply that he wants to juice up in between those 14 days well I doubt he would risk his reputation and name on the line knowing damn well he is going to get tested after the fight..
      Hell no that is not obvious, it is obious that Floyd wants a better deal than that. They could have agreed to a deal that would have made the fight back but then wasted everyones time took off.

      It is also obvious that this is Bob Arum trying to spin things his way, I put little faith in spin.

      And only a true rube would buy spin from Bob Arum.

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      • the scumbag just can't keep his mouth shut

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        • Originally posted by Jimbo16031992 View Post
          There was no cutoff, the last test happened to be 18 days before the fight, which was USADAs choice, neither of the fighter's. They could have been tested up until the fight at a random time, hence neither fighter could take anything as USADA could have turned up 15 minutes later t test, they just happened not to do so.
          I understand that their was no cut off days but clearly with the media reporting the 18day cut off and Floyd not agreeing to the original 14 day cut off from prior.. How does that look on Floyd..

          Yes I know that both fighters did not know they were gonna stop blood testing 18days out..

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          • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            The original demand was for full testing. I had no idea Pac agreed to that.


            The demand was gone in February. Unless Floyd was a psychic and knew Pacquiao would change his mind in May.

            Well, since the purpose is to randomly test the fighters as a deterrent maybe Pac should stop asking to know. Just a thought. And since he's not using - like you say - he should have no problems doing that.
            who cares? pac has a legit reason to stick with 14 days with him being weak and wanna be 100% to give a 100% top notch fight.., top that off, in the 14 day BLOOD TESTING BLACKOUT( urine testing will be administered all the way), the testing will be pedproof...the only reason u r saying what youre saying is lick 2 floyds nuts:blow:



            floyd: im taking two years offf lmao

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            • Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
              Ok, lets say, since many of you already reported, that the first offer is gone..

              Now Floyd has a new one.. How does that look on Floyd making new rules and increasing his bargaining power.. Obviously it looks like he just doesnt want the fight... and to top that off he clearly states he might be taking a year or two off. Whether thats true or not, it clearly shows that he just doesnt want that fight..
              It looks like Floyd wants a better offer to men, no harm in wanting to get what you think you are worth~

              I would argue that Manny's side doesn't really want the fight but is trying to play it like they do to fool guillible people into believing their side is in the right. Now Manny probably wants the fight but only on his terms, if you are unwilling to make a fight occur and concede where you are in the wrong it is impossible to come to a deal between these two sides. Both sides would get blame~

              If you buy this spin, I have some swamp land to sell you in Florida real cheap with the oil spill and all~

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              • Originally posted by feefiflofum View Post
                who cares? pac has a legit reason to stick with 14 days with him being weak and wanna be 100% to give a 100% top notch fight.., top that off, in the 14 day BLOOD TESTING BLACKOUT( urine testing will be administered all the way), the testing will be pedproof...the only reason u r saying what youre saying is lick floyds nuts:blow:



                floyd: im taking two years offf lmao
                How do I look like a monkey again?

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                • Originally posted by cupocity303 View Post
                  Like I said a couple of pages down.

                  There is a difference between a Floyd fan who agrees that Floyd should get more money but thinks he should forget about that and take the fight with a 50/50 regardless.

                  And the same Floyd fan who agrees on all the things above but will defend his position to get more money to no end.

                  I'm the first part, I'm not disagreeing that technically by the numbers, Floyd should get more money. But i'm not gonna come in here and defend that position to no end like I have a stake in it. I'm a boxing fan first, **** Floyd and him asking for more money when 50/50 is a perfectly good deal for both, and us BOXING FANS WIN and get what we want.
                  I truly hope the fans will get what they deserve on this one.. With you on that.. 50-50 is fine who cares about PPV numbers both fighters are the top two to date..

                  I have nothing against Floyd at all but it just seems like he keeps throwing in road blocks and I wouldnt be surprised if a 60-40 Floyd Favors was reported
                  Last edited by trainhard_187; 06-06-2010, 01:29 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Boxingholic View Post
                    What has changed since March for Flyod? Pac has other things more important like winning congress? I see Pac is VERY willing to compromise on Flyods unecessary request to make the fight happen? If you havent notice its Flyod keeps requesting his own unecessary craps one after the other to not make fight happen? Lately he wants more money and not aggreeing to the his own request of 14 OST cut-off. Pac agrees to 14 days now Flyod wants to pull another fake retirement and you ***ers still keeps defending this clown.
                    Pac wants to make fight happen, Can you say same thing for Flyod? Dont tell me in March Flyod wants it. Who cares, its NOW present. We all need this fight to happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    if pac is so willing to accept then why didnt he accept the terms back in march? and be honest, you havent heard floyd say anything about this fight with pac. they agreed not to negotiate in the media. and only one side has kept the promise. and this is a business, floyd should get more money. its not 90/10 like pac has done to other fighters and you would say he deserved that amt because he was the bigger draw. so why should gloyd accept any less when he is the bigger draw? last time everyone blamed floyd for his rediculous demands. now those same demands are acceptable. pac and crew need to get real. pac fans need to get real. if the demands were bad first time around they still are. right? all in all i do want to see this fight and hope it gets made

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                    • Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
                      I understand that their was no cut off days but clearly with the media reporting the 18day cut off and Floyd not agreeing to the original 14 day cut off from prior.. How does that look on Floyd..

                      Yes I know that both fighters did not know they were gonna stop blood testing 18days out..
                      The thing is I have no problem with Floyd not wanting a cutoff now, but he never should have offered the cutoof the first time around, it defeats the point of the extra testing if somebody can shoot up that close to a fight, when it will have the most impact. I don't think Pacquiao does use drugs, but if Floyd has su****ions he should want the testing done properly, that's the coonfusing part, why he allowed the cutoff before, it defeated the point.

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