Will pacquiao 7 weight division championship belt ever be broke?
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Yeah... and all 17 States that were a part of the NBA make it a legitimate "world" title belt.......
dude when will you stop trying to sell me oranges.... and then turn around and give me apples.... saying its the same thing
give it up bro'Comment
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Give what up? What is your argument. You made a point that ATG fighters from the old shool era don't get their title shot until numerous fight I debunked that theory.
Then you try to make it seem like Fidel LaBarba was not an ATG title but again I debunked that idea.
And, in the modern era since you can get your title so quick. How come nobody in the last 30 years have done what Pac has?
If it was that easy somebody would of done it by now.
What exactly is your argument here? Since you're jumping around.Comment
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Well that is what I just did and now you trying to sing a different tune? Come on now. Lets just call it like it is. And, that you don't know what you're talking about.Wake the F up you ******..... don't you understand how boxing used to work in the previous era?
Don't you know that Julio Ceaser Chavez had 43 professional fights before fighting for his first major strap.... Alexis Arguello had 39 before his first shot...... (and dont give me any bs about the heavyweights .... because we aren't comparing PAC to any heavyweights.... were comparing him to other accomplished fighters in and around his weight catagory)
Get off PAC's **** in your wet dream and get back to reality.... all this is just BSComment
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My last effort and thats it........
Your original post was:
How many fighters have started early? Matter of fact how many great fighters have started in their teens, and I mean HOF'ers and ATG's, how many of them won a lineal title by the age of 19?
Cant compare Pac's accomplishment (with a career starting in 1995 on a world wide stage)..... to any ATG fighter who was forced to fight 30 or 40 or 50 fights just to get a title shot because the landscape of boxing was so different..... (and I'm sorry a stanford college student fighting under a governing body that only comprises 17 states and calls itself a world title is even more proof that you cant compare eras)
But if you are insistent..... I am willing to concede that PAC is every bit as good as hall of famer LaBarba..Comment
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Force?My last effort and thats it........
Your original post was:
How many fighters have started early? Matter of fact how many great fighters have started in their teens, and I mean HOF'ers and ATG's, how many of them won a lineal title by the age of 19?
Cant compare Pac's accomplishment (with a career starting in 1995 on a world wide stage)..... to any ATG fighter who was forced to fight 30 or 40 or 50 fights just to get a title shot because the landscape of boxing was so different..... (and I'm sorry a stanford college student fighting under a governing body that only comprises 17 states and calls itself a world title is even more proof that you cant compare eras)
But if you are insistent..... I am willing to concede that PAC is every bit as good as hall of famer LaBarba..
How many fights did Ray Leonard and Wifredo Benitez have when they got their first shot at the World title?
Answer 25 for both.
Pac got it at 24.
So what are you arguing about? They fought in the Arguello, Chavez era. Two guys you gave example. So this is my counter.
I really don't understand your gripe.Comment
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NBA is not a legit world title because it only represented 17 states under its umbrella...Give what up? What is your argument. You made a point that ATG fighters from the old shool era don't get their title shot until numerous fight I debunked that theory.
Then you try to make it seem like Fidel LaBarba was not an ATG title but again I debunked that idea.
And, in the modern era since you can get your title so quick. How come nobody in the last 30 years have done what Pac has?
If it was that easy somebody would of done it by now.
What exactly is your argument here? Since you're jumping around.
OK I will concede LaBarba and his defeats over kid chocolate, kid francis, battling battalino, wild cat carter, Mr T, Macho king randy savage, and capt lou albano is as much an all time great as PAC......
have you even heard a word I've been saying.... cant compare... cant .... CANT CANT
you convinced me....you win ... Pac is as much an all time great as the famous NBA World Champion and stanford college student LaBarba.....
It also must be said of Pac the all time great .... after collecting his first lineal title and proving he was the best of the best at 112...... three fights later he got his ass knocked out by a body shot yeah I did have to look that up..... hell of a lineal champ.... will probably go down in history as one of the greatest reigns of any fighter in history!!!!Last edited by tacoboxer; 06-04-2010, 12:58 AM.Comment
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I see you edit your post but couldn't respond to post 187. Good jobNBA is not a legit world title because it only represented 17 states under its umbrella...
OK I will concede LaBarba and his defeats over kid chocolate, kid francis, battling battalino, wild cat carter, Mr T, Macho king randy savage, and capt lou albano is as much an all time great as PAC......
have you even heard a word I've been saying.... cant compare... cant .... CANT CANT
you convinced me....you win ... Pac is as much an all time great as the famous NBA World Champion and stanford college student LaBarba.....
my work is done here.
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