Was Erik Morales in his prime for the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    Some posters think he was.

    Hell he wasnt even prime in the first fight.
    Exactly. Only nuthuggers like Top Rank would even argue different.

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    • P. Rick
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      #32
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Well you have to factor in that Judah was suspended for a whole year. His next fight was against Cotto. Cotto most likely ruined him.

      What hes done since losing to Floyd doesnt matter. Your claim is that he was shot when he fought Floyd. That would mean that Baldi wouldve had to brutally beat him to a pulp to where you can say that he took alot of damage. He was the best WW in the world with the belts. He wasnt shot.

      When he fought Mayweather? No he wasn't. The fact that he lost to Baldomir of all people should let you know that if he wasn't shot maybe he just wasn't very good to begin with, which only solidifies my arguement that Pacquiao had a better 2006.

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        #33
        No he was not period

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          #34
          Originally posted by P. Rick
          When he fought Mayweather? No he wasn't. The fact that he lost to Baldomir of all people should let you know that if he wasn't shot maybe he just wasn't very good to begin with, which only solidifies my arguement that Pacquiao had a better 2006.
          Im talking about when Judah fought Baldomir.

          How long have you been following Zab? Its clear hes a head case with damn god talent. Its not that he was never good n the first place he proved that s. Floyd no?

          Saying Zab was shot after the Baldi fight is just laughable.
          In 2006 Floyd beat two of the top WW's in the world and won the 147 Pound Lineal title.

          That same year Pac beat a shot, drained Morales. Twice. Cmon man.

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            #35
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Thats because Shane was the P4P Number 3 and best WW in the world.

            He was past his best days but he wasnt shot by any stretch of the imagination.

            Oscar beating Chavez and Pernell is talked about by his fans like its Oscars crowing achievement. Failing to mention that when he fought elite fighters he got ****ed up almost every time. Thats the difference.
            And Whitaker was P4P #1 when Oscar fought him. He also fought him when he had like 24 fights AND he was moving UP in weight to face him.

            When he fought elite fighters?? lol

            The fighters DLH beat are better than the ones Floyd has beaten.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
              And Whitaker was P4P #1 when Oscar fought him. He also fought him when he had like 24 fights AND he was moving UP in weight to face him.

              When he fought elite fighters?? lol

              The fighters DLH beat are better than the ones Floyd has beaten.
              Whitaker was p4p #1 like Hopkins was p4p #3 this year. In other words, out of respect. Whitaker didn't look too hot in his two fights against Rivera and looked almost completely faded against Hurtado. Some things are best kept in perspective.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                And Whitaker was P4P #1 when Oscar fought him. He also fought him when he had like 24 fights AND he was moving UP in weight to face him.

                When he fought elite fighters?? lol

                The fighters DLH beat are better than the ones Floyd has beaten.
                Cmon man Pernell wasnt REALLY the best fighter int he world in all of boxing. You know that. Hell Pernell showed that in his previous fights.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Whitaker was p4p #1 like Hopkins was p4p #3 this year. In other words, out of respect. Whitaker didn't look too hot in his two fights against Rivera and looked almost completely faded against Hurtado. Some things are best kept in perspective.
                  Get the **** out of here with that bull****!!! I could understand if it were a different rating but #1?? Common man, that's nothing but Oscar hate right there.
                  Mayweather hasn't fought in 2 years and comes and beats a lightweight and is ranked #2 again. You mean to tell me if someone beats him they wouldn't get credit??

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Im talking about when Judah fought Baldomir.
                    How long have you been following Zab? Its clear hes a head case with damn god talent. Its not that he was never good n the first place he proved that s. Floyd no?
                    Long enough to know he has no heart and isn't anything special. Please don't mistake my post count with being new to boxing. I'm not some random Pac fan who started watching after De La Hoya..



                    Saying Zab was shot after the Baldi fight is just laughable.
                    In 2006 Floyd beat two of the top WW's in the world and won the 147 Pound Lineal title.

                    That same year Pac beat a shot, drained Morales. Twice. Cmon man.
                    Top WW according to who? RING perhaps? The same RING that had Erik Morales, shot or not, ranked number 6 right behind Manny Pacquiao, while number 1 ranked Mayweather fought number 10 ranked Zab and unranked Baldomir, who is one of the worst ww lineal champions in boxing history?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Everyone on this site knows what a Prime Morales looks like. People need to stop being silly.
                      I'm not sure everyone does man. Thats the problem.

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