Comments Thread For: Wladimir, Vitali Klitschko Call David Haye The First Choice

[Jedi Vader]

I laugh at you vitali fans who still live off vitalis loss....he got his eye punched out I 6 rounds...wow! Vitali won the first 4,lennox came back won the next 2...fights are 12 rounds not six so cut out the vitali did not force lennox to retire.he fought vitali as his only fight in 18 months then retired when he chose to...going from knocking out Tyson to fighting guys like vitali was like driving a Ferrari for 10 years then having to drive a chevette....driving loses it's luster....so does going from fighting holyfield twice,then Tyson....then a serious drop off in $$$ & lewis wouldn't have made nearly the $$$ fighting vitali again as he made fighting the big dogs....your scared reasoning is sooo ridiculous....vitali never got it done...too bad...that's all you fans got....20 years from now lennox will be talking about how he BEAT the best,vitali can talk about how he almost beat the best guys he faced...he lost vs lennox & quit vs bryd....vitali will never have lennox legacy...he shouldn't have taken 4 years off then things couldve been different.

Those are facts Klit-lickers.

[Phirsole]

I laugh at you vitali fans who still live off vitalis loss....he got his eye punched out I 6 rounds...wow! Vitali won the first 4,lennox came back won the next 2...fights are 12 rounds not six so cut out the vitali did not force lennox to retire.he fought vitali as his only fight in 18 months then retired when he chose to...going from knocking out Tyson to fighting guys like vitali was like driving a Ferrari for 10 years then having to drive a chevette....driving loses it's luster....so does going from fighting holyfield twice,then Tyson....then a serious drop off in $$$ & lewis wouldn't have made nearly the $$$ fighting vitali again as he made fighting the big dogs....your scared reasoning is sooo ridiculous....vitali never got it done...too bad...that's all you fans got....20 years from now lennox will be talking about how he BEAT the best,vitali can talk about how he almost beat the best guys he faced...he lost vs lennox & quit vs bryd....vitali will never have lennox legacy...he shouldn't have taken 4 years off then things couldve been different.

Were there any ATGs, who came and went in those four years? If there had been any Fraziers and Tysons in the years 2004-2008, I missed them.

What Vitali could have achieved for his legacy, would have been 3 fights x 4 years = 12 more wins against Rahman, Briggs, Holyfield, or the guys Wlad busted up. You know, a LONGER, but not a DEEPER resummee.

[edgarg]

I laugh at you vitali fans who still live off vitalis loss....he got his eye punched out I 6 rounds...wow! Vitali won the first 4,lennox came back won the next 2...fights are 12 rounds not six so cut out the vitali did not force lennox to retire.he fought vitali as his only fight in 18 months then retired when he chose to...going from knocking out Tyson to fighting guys like vitali was like driving a Ferrari for 10 years then having to drive a chevette....driving loses it's luster....so does going from fighting holyfield twice,then Tyson....then a serious drop off in $$$ & lewis wouldn't have made nearly the $$$ fighting vitali again as he made fighting the big dogs....your scared reasoning is sooo ridiculous....vitali never got it done...too bad...that's all you fans got....20 years from now lennox will be talking about how he BEAT the best,vitali can talk about how he almost beat the best guys he faced...he lost vs lennox & quit vs bryd....vitali will never have lennox legacy...he shouldn't have taken 4 years off then things couldve been different.

You're a guy who's written in over 2.5 thousand letters, so you yould know that in the interests o truth and accuracy, you should stick to the facts, and not tell fairy tales.

1) Lewis had 5 fights in the 2.5 years befure he retired- 4 fights in the 2 years before retiremant-3 fights in the 1.5 years before retirement and 2 fights in the 1 year before retirement.

They were some of his best wins, starting with his overwhelming win over a prime David Tua, including his losing and winning fights against Rahman, Tyson etc.

Klitschko's "eye" was not touched in the fight, his eyebrow was cut, but contained, and did not hinder him. The doctor was either a fool, or, as has been said, may have bet on Lewis.

A rematch would have been the biggest heavyweight fight for the past 20 years, and Lewis knew well how to extort more cash from the promoters.

All the evidence points towards Lewis scurrying into retirement rather than face Klitschko again.

1) The antagonistic lack of credit given to his opponent in the after-fight interview, when Lewis was still shaking from his narrow escape.
2) The wild statements he was making that Klitschko wouldn't be able to give him a good fight and the fans would be deprived.......
3) The outrageous and demeaning public demands he made on Klitschko neccessitating Klitschko's pilgrimage to London England, to be "examined" by Lewis's own doctor, to make asure his "eye" would be in fit condition to give HIM< Lewis, a good fight....with which Klitschko meekly complied.
4) Lewis's refusal to honour the December return fight date.
5) Klitschko's annihilation of Lewis's original opponent, for whom Klitschko subbed at 10 days notice, the 30-1 Kirk Johnson..........which led to.........
5) Lewis's further "dragging-his-feet" culminating in his final refusal to face Klitschko and retiring in March (or April) 2004.

And as "icing on the cake" which I give you as a bonus, the many times that Lewis contacted Klitschko's subsequent opponents with advice on how to beat Klitschko.

None of which advice, unfortunately, was successful.

[Brassangel]

To be fair that was a prime Vitali, Haye would be fighting an old slow aging Vitali, but hard to beat none the less, i'm afraid with Haye's lack of activity over the last 2 years, 38 yr old Vitali's stamina outlasts that of a 29 yr old Haye.

Vitali was not in his prime. He was actually a little green at the time. He would have been primed for the rematch. You are right about his age now, however, and so a part of me wonders if that's Haye's plan: Wait out the Klits until they are contemplating retirement.

I laugh at you vitali fans who still live off vitalis loss....he got his eye punched out I 6 rounds...wow! Vitali won the first 4,lennox came back won the next 2...fights are 12 rounds not six so cut out the vitali did not force lennox to retire.he fought vitali as his only fight in 18 months then retired when he chose to...going from knocking out Tyson to fighting guys like vitali was like driving a Ferrari for 10 years then having to drive a chevette....driving loses it's luster....so does going from fighting holyfield twice,then Tyson....then a serious drop off in $$$ & lewis wouldn't have made nearly the $$$ fighting vitali again as he made fighting the big dogs....your scared reasoning is sooo ridiculous....vitali never got it done...too bad...that's all you fans got....20 years from now lennox will be talking about how he BEAT the best,vitali can talk about how he almost beat the best guys he faced...he lost vs lennox & quit vs bryd....vitali will never have lennox legacy...he shouldn't have taken 4 years off then things couldve been different.

You need to read edgarg's post. You are so wrong on a myriad of levels.

@edgarg: Well put! It's good to see the facts instead of fanboy homerism.

[ChopperRead]

I laugh at you vitali fans who still live off vitalis loss....he got his eye punched out I 6 rounds...wow! Vitali won the first 4,lennox came back won the next 2...fights are 12 rounds not six so cut out the vitali did not force lennox to retire.he fought vitali as his only fight in 18 months then retired when he chose to...going from knocking out Tyson to fighting guys like vitali was like driving a Ferrari for 10 years then having to drive a chevette....driving loses it's luster....so does going from fighting holyfield twice,then Tyson....then a serious drop off in $$$ & lewis wouldn't have made nearly the $$$ fighting vitali again as he made fighting the big dogs....your scared reasoning is sooo ridiculous....vitali never got it done...too bad...that's all you fans got....20 years from now lennox will be talking about how he BEAT the best,vitali can talk about how he almost beat the best guys he faced...he lost vs lennox & quit vs bryd....vitali will never have lennox legacy...he shouldn't have taken 4 years off then things couldve been different.

Shut up Joe Canuck. Lennox took a dump on your country and split for England. You should hate him just for that. He held up the belt for a YEAR and retired the day Vitali was made his mandatory. He was afraid to risk a rematch with Vitali. Period.

[ChopperRead]

You're a guy who's written in over 2.5 thousand letters, so you yould know that in the interests o truth and accuracy, you should stick to the facts, and not tell fairy tales.

1) Lewis had 5 fights in the 2.5 years befure he retired- 4 fights in the 2 years before retiremant-3 fights in the 1.5 years before retirement and 2 fights in the 1 year before retirement.

They were some of his best wins, starting with his overwhelming win over a prime David Tua, including his losing and winning fights against Rahman, Tyson etc.

Klitschko's "eye" was not touched in the fight, his eyebrow was cut, but contained, and did not hinder him. The doctor was either a fool, or, as has been said, may have bet on Lewis.

A rematch would have been the biggest heavyweight fight for the past 20 years, and Lewis knew well how to extort more cash from the promoters.

All the evidence points towards Lewis scurrying into retirement rather than face Klitschko again.

1) The antagonistic lack of credit given to his opponent in the after-fight interview, when Lewis was still shaking from his narrow escape.
2) The wild statements he was making that Klitschko wouldn't be able to give him a good fight and the fans would be deprived.......
3) The outrageous and demeaning public demands he made on Klitschko neccessitating Klitschko's pilgrimage to London England, to be "examined" by Lewis's own doctor, to make asure his "eye" would be in fit condition to give HIM< Lewis, a good fight....with which Klitschko meekly complied.
4) Lewis's refusal to honour the December return fight date.
5) Klitschko's annihilation of Lewis's original opponent, for whom Klitschko subbed at 10 days notice, the 30-1 Kirk Johnson..........which led to.........
5) Lewis's further "dragging-his-feet" culminating in his final refusal to face Klitschko and retiring in March (or April) 2004.

And as "icing on the cake" which I give you as a bonus, the many times that Lewis contacted Klitschko's subsequent opponents with advice on how to beat Klitschko.

None of which advice, unfortunately, was successful.

Yes, the facts are overwhelming. Lennox was a great heavyweight, but he wanted no part of another fight with Vitali.

[leemoorcroft]

vitali aint as good as lewis lewis ws leuges above all the heavys at that time yeah vitali was ahead when stoped but i felt lewis was growin in the fight and would of won anyway and at this point a 37 year old lewis had fought many wars and at the end of the best h,w career since ali fighting tua holyfeid ruddock mcall tyson mercer akinwandie botha golota klitchko bruno rahman mason mricovic or whoever u spell it compare that to vitali you cant the klits would of been contenders in that era of boxing nothink more lewis is a h,w great he got out still top of the pile

[Mike Tyson77]

Haye cant beat either, that's why he wont fight them.

[rudy4pl]

Klitschko's made a mistake giving Haye a title shot in the first place. He should have earned it rising through the ranks.

[Squirrel]

Klitschko's "eye" was not touched in the fight, his eyebrow was cut, but contained, and did not hinder him. The doctor was either a fool, or, as has been said, may have bet on Lewis.

Wow ... just ... wow.