What do you guys think about this fight: Lucian Bute vs Zsolt Erdei at 175?

[Guest]

Nice post and outline of the real problems in being non-german in a german stable.

As for the bolded I would think that Valuev must rival. Sauerland/King hasn't done very good for him particularly in the Klit negotiations a couple months ago.

You know this Bat, but I've always said Braehmer would get his ass handed to him if he stepped it up against the top guns at 175, as well.


That is if he can control his domestic violence and assault binges.


Braehmer can punch but he can also get rocked big.

The man doesn't comprehend defense that well.

[warp1432]

Face it. Zsolt's resumé is better than Bute's.

I'm calling bull**** on this one. Julio Gonzalez was the best name on Zsolt's resume and that's a quality win, but no one else on Zsolt Erdei's resume is really good. Hugo Garay is alright, but he barely was able to beat him twice.

Bute might have one dimensional sluggers, but at least they are good one dimensional sluggers.

Andrade (UD 12, KO4)
Miranda (KO 3)
Bika (UD 12)
Berrio (KO 11)
Zuniga (KO 4)

You're telling me is worse then

Gonzalez (UD 12)
Frag (UD 12)
Garay ( SD 12 x 2)
Ulrich (UD 12)
Mendoza (UD 12)

The only reason it's close is because of Zslot's win over Frag. Bute fights better competition every time out and his defenses have been a lot better then Erdei's.

[Spray_resistant]

Its an interesting fight if it happens and the thing is that even though Zsolt has been a CW champion and Bute is a current SMW champion, Bute is actually the slightly bigger man.

I have come around a bit on Zsolt when you consider how many fighters cut so much weight to fight smaller men than themselves and Erdei has the whole time been the size really of an average SMW while remaining an unbeaten LHW champion and CW titlist too.

[BattlingNelson]

You know this Bat, but I've always said Braehmer would get his ass handed to him if he stepped it up against the top guns at 175, as well.


That is if he can control his domestic violence and assault binges.


Braehmer can punch but he can also get rocked big.

The man doesn't comprehend defense that well.

Yeah. A shame that Braehmer isn't a fat yank. If he was everybody would know that he is boxings mr. action. The Arturo Gatti of the LHW.

[JK1700]

WBC LHW RANKINGS:

Champ: Pascal
Interim Champ: Dawson

#1 Danny Green
#2 Zsolt Erdei
#3 Karo Murat
#4 Chris Henry



So you guys see, considering Green doesn't even fight as a LHW, that Erdei is the likely choice to fight the winner or Dawson-Pascal.

But didnt Erdei say he was going to retire? Apparently "all he ever wanted was to retire undefeated". I haven't seen him fight but he has wins over Julio Gonzalez, Hugo Garay and Thomas Ulrich so it's obvious he is good but he's never fought a real top LHW. I don't know why Green is at #1 because he is Cruiserweight.....That doesnt make sense

I wish Erdei would step up and fight a top LHW

[Hitman932]

Nice post and outline of the real problems in being non-german in a german stable.

As for the bolded I would think that Valuev must rival. Sauerland/King hasn't done very good for him particularly in the Klit negotiations a couple months ago.

Yeah Valuev has been pretty badly mismanaged himself but at least in his case he still got a couple million dollar paydays and probably still has one more to go.

When a lot of money is involved sometimes negotiations can get very difficult, and I think Valuev's promoters have always seen him as a potential cash cow (stricty because of his freakish size) and are therefore hesitant to put him at risk.

In Erdei's case I think it's just flat out indifference on his promoter's part.

Universum sucks, look how they handled Felix Sturm's career.. and he is German.

Take that into consideration and it's no surprise they never worked to further Erdei's popularity with a couple high profile fights.

[BattlingNelson]

I'm calling bull**** on this one. Julio Gonzalez was the best name on Zsolt's resume and that's a quality win, but no one else on Zsolt Erdei's resume is really good. Hugo Garay is alright, but he barely was able to beat him twice.

Bute might have one dimensional sluggers, but at least they are good one dimensional sluggers.

Andrade (UD 12, KO4)
Miranda (KO 3)
Bika (UD 12)
Berrio (KO 11)
Zuniga (KO 4)

You're telling me is worse then

Gonzalez (UD 12)
Frag (UD 12)
Garay ( SD 12 x 2)
Ulrich (UD 12)
Mendoza (UD 12)

The only reason it's close is because of Zslot's win over Frag. Bute fights better competition every time out and his defenses have been a lot better then Erdei's.

You shouldn't call bull****. The names listed by you as Bute's best wins are not impressive by any standard. Perhaps the KO of Andrade, but it kinda fades given the controversy of the first outing.

[Pullcounter]

Do you think this would be a good fight and a good matchup? Erdei, former cruiserweight champ, is coming off an exciting fight and he has been available for a while. Honestly, this is a way better matchup than Jesse Brinkley IMO, who Bute is rumored to fight next.

bute is better off just staying at 168 lbs.

[Jim Jeffries]

bute is better off just staying at 168 lbs.

Yeah but who's he supposed to fight until the tourney is finished, besides maybe Pavlik? At 30 years old he can't afford to wait a couple years of his prime. But if I was him, I'd try to make Dawson come to him, if he's still willing to do so.

[warp1432]

You shouldn't call bull****. The names listed by you as Bute's best wins are not impressive by any standard. Perhaps the KO of Andrade, but it kinda fades given the controversy of the first outing.

Not impressive? They are a lot more proven then any of the scrubs Erdei beat save for Frag and Gonzalez. Andrade is a quality fighter and if he isn't then that makes Kessler's resume **** because that was his best win until Carl Froch.

How does KOing a guy in a rematch impressively and dominating him the first tiem for 11 rounds be called "unimpressive"

You didn't even bother supporting Erdei's resume. You just see that the other people are sluggers and you view them as ****, and write them off. Bika is better then a lot of people on Erdei's resume too.