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  • Oscar was all over Floyds ass and look what happened. Floyd fought oscar at oscar's weight class and won and oscar came in 4 pounds havier than floyd fight night.Manny had to dehydrate Oscar for the fight. Even Roach said he knew the fight was over before it begain because Oscar was dehydrated. Not to mention Manny came in havier then Oscar came fight night. Lets also talk about how oscar hasn't fought at that weight in 7 years prior to that fight. Floyd beat oscar in oscar's own weight class. Floyd went in the jungle and came back with his prize, while manny continues to demand that fighters come out their jungle to fight manny. Manny keep fighting these fighters with handicaps.

    Why did manny have to fight cotto at a catch weight? Roach even said in an interview that he wanted to dehydrate cotto as much as possible for the fight. Why? Well the answer is simple to weaken cotto for the fight. They didnt wanna fight a healthy cotto, cause they wasn't confident that manny could win. Also Roach said that Shane came to the camp twice and begged to fight manny but Roach said that Shane was too good. Oh but when Shane begged mayweather to fight and mayweather said no, everybody said mayweather was ducking. Then when mayweather fought shane and won everybody is now saying that Shane was too old then if Shane was too old what was the point in them fighting? Yall say Shane is an old man but Roach didn't want none of that old man. CASE CLOSED I'M OUT.

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    • Originally posted by mushahadeen View Post
      Ndou was gassed but Floyd blocked all these...

      Ndou? Hmmmmmm...too slow to compare to Pac, and Ndou's angles are...cmon man!

      Pac's way too different from Philip. Check out Pac's combos against ODLH.

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      • Originally posted by Burnthrust View Post
        Oscar was all over Floyds ass and look what happened. Floyd fought oscar at oscar's weight class and won and oscar came in 4 pounds havier than floyd fight night.Manny had to dehydrate Oscar for the fight. Even Roach said he knew the fight was over before it begain because Oscar was dehydrated. Not to mention Manny came in havier then Oscar came fight night. Lets also talk about how oscar hasn't fought at that weight in 7 years prior to that fight. Floyd beat oscar in oscar's own weight class. Floyd went in the jungle and came back with his prize, while manny continues to demand that fighters come out their jungle to fight manny. Manny keep fighting these fighters with handicaps.

        Why did manny have to fight cotto at a catch weight? Roach even said in an interview that he wanted to dehydrate cotto as much as possible for the fight. Why? Well the answer is simple to weaken cotto for the fight. They didnt wanna fight a healthy cotto, cause they wasn't confident that manny could win. Also Roach said that Shane came to the camp twice and begged to fight manny but Roach said that Shane was too good. Oh but when Shane begged mayweather to fight and mayweather said no, everybody said mayweather was ducking. Then when mayweather fought shane and won everybody is now saying that Shane was too old then if Shane was too old what was the point in them fighting? Yall say Shane is an old man but Roach didn't want none of that old man. CASE CLOSED I'M OUT.

        I would have to agree, it is a MAJOR double standard when it comes to Floyd Mayweather unfortunately

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        • its the below average and average boxers thatd makes Floyd look good. Thatd reason why he is called the queen of " cherry picking"!!! If Floyd ever fights Pac you will see an ovethype boxer getting knock out in early rounds.
          Bump this after the fight!!
          Last edited by Boxingholic; 05-31-2010, 02:31 PM.

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          • Floyd draws people into boxing matches by setting the pace. He is a notoriously bad starter though. Judah, Hatton, Mosley. Pac has to take advantage of it. The one thing I will give Floyd credit for which I realized in the Mosely fight is that he is gamer that I though he was. Most fighters after being buckled and out fought early would be start doubting their right to be in the same ring with who their fighting. Instead of running, Floyd actually took the fight to Shane and was relaxed which changed my opinion on breaking his will in the ring which Pac does to his opponents. Pac does it with volume, accuracy, and consistency. I don't think one or two buckling power shots will do it to Floyd and Manny will land those. Then again nothing discourages Pac from coming at you. Distance would be key in beating Floyd because he cans smother your punches or just be out of reach. It is hard to get in and out with a man that has quick feet and controls distance so pac will have to get Floyd awkward with angles. This fight is so interesting in many ways, I hope it happens.

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            • i think the reduction of his opponents workrate has to do with floyd not staying in the pocket or exchanging but simply, just leaping back so most of these guys who lack the footwork/footspeed aren't able to catch up

              the counter-punching also plays a part
              but floyds defensive style(which is to avoid punches by shoulder rolling and taking a step back) is the answer to why he cuts the opponents workrate in half, personally that's what i think

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              • Oh one last thing then I am truly leaving. Shane aslo agreed to fight manny at witch ever catch weight manny wanted and they still didn't want none. FLOYD HAS NEVER ASKED FOR A CATCH WIEGHT. When Manny and Floyd was first in talks Floyd agreed to fight manny at a catch weight and Roach said if Floyd comes in one pound over he wants 10 mil for every pound Floyd comes in oer. Then later after that Roach said That if Floyd comes in one pound over the fight is off and manny and Roach will pack their **** and leave the fight at the weight in.

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                • Originally posted by TriGaFinGa View Post
                  i think the reduction of his opponents workrate has to do with floyd not staying in the pocket or exchanging but simply, just leaping back so most of these guys who lack the footwork/footspeed aren't able to catch up

                  the counter-punching also plays a part
                  but floyds defensive style(which is to avoid punches by shoulder rolling and taking a step back) is the answer to why he cuts the opponents workrate in half, personally that's what i think
                  Doesn't Floyd jump back to avoid punches? You have a logical flaw there. You are saying that they don't throw because Floyd has jumped back from the punch they didn't throw?

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                  • Originally posted by TriGaFinGa View Post
                    i think the reduction of his opponents workrate has to do with floyd not staying in the pocket or exchanging but simply, just leaping back so most of these guys who lack the footwork/footspeed aren't able to catch up

                    the counter-punching also plays a part
                    but floyds defensive style(which is to avoid punches by shoulder rolling and taking a step back) is the answer to why he cuts the opponents workrate in half, personally that's what i think
                    That or smothering punches by going forward. It makes it hard to throw combos because you have to be able to punch going backwards. That is why someone with a good jab will do well against Floyd. Floyd knows to use clinching in a fight. Against Mosley he would push the head down so Mosley could not throw body shots. You have to be able to dance with Floyd if you wanna beat him. When Floyd smothers an opponent he tags em backing up trying to create space too. This is what worries me when he fightis Pac. This why I give Floyd a slight edge.

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                    • Originally posted by Versatility View Post
                      ...by his ring mobility/movement. he is so illusive and defensive..so accurate, he counters you and makes you think twice before you throw punches because you would get countered

                      i mean diego corrales threw almost 900 punches against gairy st claire, how many did he throw against floyd?

                      hatton threw 755 punches against juan urango and 741 against collazo , how many did he throw against floyd? he threw 372 and 53 landed which is a connect percentage of 17%

                      marquez threw 732 punches against juan diaz in 9 rounds

                      mosley threw 774 against cotto and 507 against margarito in 9 rounds but he threw 452 against floyd and landed 92, which is a connect percentage of 20%

                      de la hoya threw 810 against forbes, 792 against sturm.

                      the point of this thread is that floyd can make a fighter think twice and reduce their work rate because he throws accurate counterpunches, this is why mosley got "tired" and "looked his age" ..mosley wouldnt throw because he was getting countered so he was being very careful with what he threw
                      I mentioned this before, its the feinting. It looks so real. It messes ur reflexes up. to the point where I don't think you're ever the same after.

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