Show Me A Fight Were 2 Lbs Changed the Outcome

[Pension-Killer]

EXACTLY, AND I AM THE ONE SAYING THAT 2 LBS WONT HURT THEM......BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMIT, DO you not see the logic in what I stated? even stated that most people react differently and even gave you a method on how to find your limit in losing.... when you get sick, but you ignored that.

I stated the truth that you were a little man because your comment came off as if you were saying you would whoop my ass or some ****.

YOU ARE LITTLE, YOU WOULDNT WHOOP MY ASS IF I was sick, and you fail in your logic. /thread.

2lbs does hurt boxers.

It depends on the siutation of course.

When you're Cotto who has fought at 140 and amde it hard to make weight there, OK, 140 is tough.

When you are 5 foot 6/7 and stocky at 147, you can lose weight, especially when you last weighed at 146.

Cotto has never looked as good. He got rid of the belt he has around his hips... He did not lose muscle, he lost fat.

[Pension-Killer]

I'm eating you up.

I'm hungry and mofo I am gonna eat you like you're some juicy ***** and I been on an oil rig for 6 months.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

yes he probably would have, but its not the point. Floyd couldnt be arsed to make the weight. that is poor professionalism. As if JMM coming up 1 and a half weight divisions already wasnt enough of an advantage for him! wouldnt JMM of been well within his rights to say the fight is off?

yes and could have, and the fight would have been off, but...... he ****in agreed, and got his ass roasted!!!!

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? Say I was gonna fight you at 144, you agreed, you had to make the weight climb, truth be told YOU REALLY WOULDNT HAVE A CHANCE, BUT you agreed to a catchweight. I told you i would meet you at 144, but prior to the fight my team talked with you and your trainer about me missing the weigh in by 2 lbs. You and your trainer then say its okay, and you recieve the penalty money. This all happens prior to teh fight remember.

You get in teh ring, I embarass you, I never lean on you, I dont use my 2lb weight advantage at all, you miss wildly, i pull counter and right hand yoru ass into oblivion etc.


CAN YOU HONESTLY CALL ME A CHEATER? YOU AGREED IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR THAT ASS WHOOPIN, YOU ALSO AGREED TO THE WEIGHT PENALTY, I DIDNT LEAN ON YOU ONCE, BUT I EMBARASS YOUR ASS...... WHO IS THERE TO BLAME?


"WHATS FUNNY IS THAT JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ THE MAN IN THE RING, NEVER CALLED FLOYD A CHEATER, BUT GUYS THAT ARENT EVEN IN SHAPE ARE SAYING HE CHEATED"

You guys are the same ones making excuses for fighters that the fighters arent even using!!! THATS CALLED HATING!!!

shane was blood drained (not you specifically) but shane never stated that ****!

AWWW THE HATE!

[Pension-Killer]

Plus your Clottey ****.

After Cotto, Clottey was a downgrade IMO.

Once they knew Pac could take a genuine punch at a higher weight, they (The team) decided that it was time to fight at 147.

Remember Pac was 138 VS Hatton, 144 (I think) VS Cotto and 145/6 vs Clottey.

He was not 147 vs Oscar also at 142 I believe.

So Pac being smaller doesn't count does it?

[Pension-Killer]

yes and could have, and the fight would have been off, but...... he ****in agreed, and got his ass roasted!!!!

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? Say I was gonna fight you at 144, you agreed, you had to make the weight climb, truth be told YOU REALLY WOULDNT HAVE A CHANCE, BUT you agreed to a catchweight. I told you i would meet you at 144, but prior to the fight my team talked with you and your trainer about me missing the weigh in by 2 lbs. You and your trainer then say its okay, and you recieve the penalty money. This all happens prior to teh fight remember.

You get in teh ring, I embarass you, I never lean on you, I dont use my 2lb weight advantage at all, you miss wildly, i pull counter and right hand yoru ass into oblivion etc.


CAN YOU HONESTLY CALL ME A CHEATER? YOU AGREED IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR THAT ASS WHOOPIN, YOU ALSO AGREED TO THE WEIGHT PENALTY, I DIDNT LEAN ON YOU ONCE, BUT I EMBARASS YOUR ASS...... WHO IS THERE TO BLAME?


"WHATS FUNNY IS THAT JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ THE MAN IN THE RING, NEVER CALLED FLOYD A CHEATER, BUT GUYS THAT ARENT EVEN IN SHAPE ARE SAYING HE CHEATED"

You guys are the same ones making excuses for fighters that the fighters arent even using!!! THATS CALLED HATING!!!

shane was blood drained (not you specifically) but shane never stated that ****!

AWWW THE HATE!

JMM is part of Golden Boy... No one called Floyd a cheater form that team. They make money from Floyd. Floyd has reportedly borrowed money to pay the IRS from GBP, of course they are not gonna stop that fight happening.

I'm not saying JMM woudl have won, he wouldn't have, I'm saying that 144 would have made it harder for Floyd.

Even *****s said 144 was to make it more even.

As for Floyd not using his weight like leaning, I agree, but he obviously had a size advantage.

His reach alone was a key, being the bigger man.

[Pension-Killer]

yes and could have, and the fight would have been off, but...... he ****in agreed, and got his ass roasted!!!!

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? Say I was gonna fight you at 144, you agreed, you had to make the weight climb, truth be told YOU REALLY WOULDNT HAVE A CHANCE, BUT you agreed to a catchweight. I told you i would meet you at 144, but prior to the fight my team talked with you and your trainer about me missing the weigh in by 2 lbs. You and your trainer then say its okay, and you recieve the penalty money. This all happens prior to teh fight remember.

You get in teh ring, I embarass you, I never lean on you, I dont use my 2lb weight advantage at all, you miss wildly, i pull counter and right hand yoru ass into oblivion etc.


CAN YOU HONESTLY CALL ME A CHEATER? YOU AGREED IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR THAT ASS WHOOPIN, YOU ALSO AGREED TO THE WEIGHT PENALTY, I DIDNT LEAN ON YOU ONCE, BUT I EMBARASS YOUR ASS...... WHO IS THERE TO BLAME?


"WHATS FUNNY IS THAT JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ THE MAN IN THE RING, NEVER CALLED FLOYD A CHEATER, BUT GUYS THAT ARENT EVEN IN SHAPE ARE SAYING HE CHEATED"

You guys are the same ones making excuses for fighters that the fighters arent even using!!! THATS CALLED HATING!!!

shane was blood drained (not you specifically) but shane never stated that ****!

AWWW THE HATE!

Shane was old, maybe a little rusty and certianly had no legs.

He was never gonna win.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

So by your understanding and theory, has Manny done a great job from going down to 126/130 and getting up to 140+

Does that mean he went beyond another level to make weight and still win most fights?

Does that mean his close fights with Mosely and dodgy penis punch to Judah when hurt were OK? Or his pure power on Marg whose chin was wide open?

So when Cotto weighed in at 146, he was willing to actually weaken himself? Although he has a guy who is his trainer/nutritionalist?

I'm a Cotto fan but please, the excuses suck.

Weighing 145 doesnt mean he stays as 145 **** head. He prob mwent up close to 160...

you mad lol!!! you make no sense, if you say cotto went to 160 on fight night then provide a link trick, it simple, from naturally fighting at 160 on fight not to having weighin stipulations of a certain amount, prove me wrong, dont just say ****head, because you are mad......

even in the pic you posted manny is bigger then cotto genius??

what the hell are you talking about? there is no point in debating if you will ignore the obvious. Only a fool would do that.

and then in the same breath you stated "Cotto has never looked as good. He got rid of the belt he has around his hips... He did not lose muscle, he lost fat."

You do know that looking good is totally different from BEING healthy right? Do you know how many anorexic b@tches throw up to look sexy, but they are really killing themselves.... DAMN I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ****? YOU TALK AS IF A LITTLE FAT IS A BAD THING, ITS NOT SIMPLETON, ITS WHAT HELP BEARS GET BY DURING HIBERNATION, IT IS NOT TOTALLY BAD.

prove he was 160 on fight night his regular weight. prove it. OR SHUT YA MOUTH....

[Frank Ducketts]

Dude the obvious difference is Cotto's regular fight weight is 146 anyway where as Marquez had only fought at 135 a couple of times. So 2lbs in the May/Marquez fight was actually a MUCH bigger difference.

No there wasn't. Like all *******s said. If Cotto agreed to fight Pac at 145, and JMM agreed to still fight Floyd, then what is there to say... It's like some of you are saying, "I like PAc more and Floyd is evil so Floyd is more wrong" lol... Floyd trains too hard for me to believe he tried to pull a two pound 52 fake out on JMM.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

Plus your Clottey ****.

After Cotto, Clottey was a downgrade IMO.

Once they knew Pac could take a genuine punch at a higher weight, they (The team) decided that it was time to fight at 147.

Remember Pac was 138 VS Hatton, 144 (I think) VS Cotto and 145/6 vs Clottey.

He was not 147 vs Oscar also at 142 I believe.

So Pac being smaller doesn't count does it?

FOR ALL YORU WEIGHTS THAT YOU GAVE PAC FIGHT NIGHT SHOW SOME LINKS, NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

I got some ammo for that ass!
go ahead and jump!! lol.

[Pension-Killer]

you mad lol!!! you make no sense, if you say cotto went to 160 on fight night then provide a link trick, it simple, from naturally fighting at 160 on fight not to having weighin stipulations of a certain amount, prove me wrong, dont just say ****head, because you are mad......

even in the pic you posted manny is bigger then cotto genius??

what the hell are you talking about? there is no point in debating if you will ignore the obvious. Only a fool would do that.

and then in the same breath you stated "Cotto has never looked as good. He got rid of the belt he has around his hips... He did not lose muscle, he lost fat."

You do know that looking good is totally different from BEING healthy right? Do you know how many anorexic b@tches throw up to look sexy, but they are really killing themselves.... DAMN I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ****? YOU TALK AS IF A LITTLE FAT IS A BAD THING, ITS NOT SIMPLETON, ITS WHAT HELP BEARS GET BY DURING HIBERNATION, IT IS NOT TOTALLY BAD.

prove he was 160 on fight night his regular weight. prove it. OR SHUT YA MOUTH....

I'm not made.

You're mad, you don't even know who the **** offered you a fight fool. I'm not that guy... cross eyes *****.

Anyway son. Let's bring it.

That pic, Cotto was angled... Do you udnerstand something called depth of perception? Do you understand that the human body looks thinner at certain angles? Nursery level stuff son.

Heck no matter what angle you look at your ****, it will always be small son.

Cotto was more defined than ever. He was healthy, he also stated it. He was fast, his body did not let him down in the ring. He connected and boxed pretty well actually.

You're making out that he was struggling to actually be in the fight. He did not deal with the speed and power. That was the key.

Cotto is not a bear hibernating for the winter son. He's a pro athelte whom goes down to maybe 4-5% fat. He's a world class athlete.

Fat around his hips is gonna help him do what in boxing? Will he benefit from that fat?

Look at his body VS Judah, clearly not as well defined.

As for super models, get the **** out of here you ****, talk about boxers you lil ****** *****.

Floyd looks good, Manny looks good, best boxers who train the hardest today. They are healthy. Where is their fat?

Damn son I'm spanking you like you dropped chocolate ice cream on my cream carpet.