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  • #91
    Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
    Does anyone realize Cotto weighed 1lb less when he fought PAc than he did for the Clottey weigh-in? Obviously not. Now what was Marquez's weigh-in for the Juan Diaz fight? 134 1/2 lbs. Damn Fraud fans are so dilusional.
    GO SEE MY POST ABOUT THE FIGHT.

    COTTO COMES IN 160, SO WHILE HE MAY WEIGH IN AT 147, HE BALLOONS UP. But he couldnt do that this time.

    THERE WS A WEIGHT STIPULATION ON HIM.

    WEIGH IN IS NOTHING, OSCAR WEIGHED 154 AGAINST FLOYD ON TEH SCALES, BUT HE WAS OVER 160 ON FIGHT NIGHT.

    COTTO IS A LARGE WELTER, LOOK AT THE COTTO PAC MAN WEIGH IN PICS, AND YOU WILL SEE WHILE COTTO IS TALLER MANNY IS MUCH HEALTHIER AND BIGGER.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
      no. Jmm wanted to fight mayweather because he couldnt get a third fight with pac and in his words said we are going to fight mayweather to see who the best p4p is. Does that sound like somebody who is just after a payday? Do you think he drank that piss and those quail eggs just for a payday? I dont think so. He went into the fight thinking he could win. And the hbo poll was pretty much 50 50 if i remember correctly.
      and he got dominated and would have been dominated at 144 as well, floyd didnt lean on marquez one time, he slipped punches and countered.

      Easy work.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1 View Post
        No I am 6'1" and I weigh 198.6 lbs (weighed myself at the gym yesterday)

        I have been fighting since I was 9. ( MUAY THAI, KARATE, BOXING) I fell in love with boxing though at a very young age (WATCHING LEONARD I JUST TURNED 29 FRIDAY), I would watch my older brother in tournaments slip punches etc, so thats what I love, I train 4 days a week as well. Just for the physical fitness of it.

        So I know a thing or two about fighting, and 2 lbs only hurts you when you are pushing it. If you are naturally a small guy then 2 lbs is nothing. if you dont push it too far, as I stated I think mayweather would feel the effects at 142 IMO (skeletal).
        ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I LITERALLY PUSHED MYSELF AND GOT DOWN TO 189, THATS when I STARTED TO FEEL SICK AND WEAK, BUT THATS 10 LBS DOWN, THATS HOW I know COTTO DIDNT HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL AS I WAS TELLING EVERYONE.

        Whenever you get sick again (flu, whatever) notice how much weight you drop and how you feel when you start to recover. Thats your limit. Your body knows this naturally.
        If Cotto last weighed in at 146, is 145 really that difficult?

        It could be, but what factors in his weight made him lose to Pacquaio?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
          hey are you 5'7-5'8? Go get in championship fighting shape...at 144 and get at me since its not such a big deal, until then....................
          you are a little man.....

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          • #95
            Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1 View Post
            you are a little man.....
            So are the boxers you're talking about son.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1 View Post
              and he got dominated and would have been dominated at 144 as well, floyd didnt lean on marquez one time, he slipped punches and countered.

              Easy work.
              yes he probably would have, but its not the point. Floyd couldnt be arsed to make the weight. that is poor professionalism. As if JMM coming up 1 and a half weight divisions already wasnt enough of an advantage for him! wouldnt JMM of been well within his rights to say the fight is off?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Pension-Killer View Post
                If Cotto last weighed in at 146, is 145 really that difficult?

                It could be, but what factors in his weight made him lose to Pacquaio?
                SMH, Cutting the weight is the easy part, performing at 145 like you perform at 160 is the difference!!!
                COTTO ENTERS THE RING AT 160!

                HERES A LINK SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND, THATS 15 DAMN POUNDS, AND COTTO IS NOT FAT GUY BY ANY MEANS, WHICH MEANS THATS 15 POUNDS OF MORE MUSCLE.
                Thats why cotto was known as a ****er, manny had stipulations where this would not happen, and cotto got served, hell if I just cut your weight down right now by 15 pounds, you would literally feel like ****.

                "The biggest concern of Team Pacquiao was whether Cotto was going to weigh in under the contractual catch weight agreement of 145lbs. Miguel weighed in at 145lbs on the dot. Manny weighed in at 144lbs.
                Trainer Freddie Roach had made it clear that if Cotto did not make their agreed catch weight limit he would be fined 1 million dollars per excess pound and that if he did not make the 147lb welter weight limit then there would be no fight at all."


                http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/282108

                I am not just making **** up, read it for yourself, and there goes that 1,000,000 (million) dollars per pound stipulation again. BUT MANNY DIDNT PUT IT ON CLOTTEY NOW DID HE? ONLY ON LIVE DOGS DO YOU SEE THAT STIPULATION.

                GO FIND MY POST IN THSI TOPIC PROVING WHAT ROACH AND CO STATED AGAIN, AND WHAT COTTO USUALLY WEIGHS........... 160.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Pension-Killer View Post
                  So are the boxers you're talking about son.
                  EXACTLY, AND I AM THE ONE SAYING THAT 2 LBS WONT HURT THEM......BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMIT, DO you not see the logic in what I stated? even stated that most people react differently and even gave you a method on how to find your limit in losing.... when you get sick, but you ignored that.

                  I stated the truth that you were a little man because your comment came off as if you were saying you would whoop my ass or some ****.

                  YOU ARE LITTLE, YOU WOULDNT WHOOP MY ASS IF I was sick, and you fail in your logic. /thread.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1 View Post
                    SMH, Cutting the weight is the easy part, performing at 145 like you perform at 160 is the difference!!!
                    COTTO ENTERS THE RING AT 160!

                    HERES A LINK SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND, THATS 15 DAMN POUNDS, AND COTTO IS NOT FAT GUY BY ANY MEANS, WHICH MEANS THATS 15 POUNDS OF MORE MUSCLE.
                    Thats why cotto was known as a ****er, manny had stipulations where this would not happen, and cotto got served, hell if I just cut your weight down right now by 15 pounds, you would literally feel like ****.

                    "The biggest concern of Team Pacquiao was whether Cotto was going to weigh in under the contractual catch weight agreement of 145lbs. Miguel weighed in at 145lbs on the dot. Manny weighed in at 144lbs.
                    Trainer Freddie Roach had made it clear that if Cotto did not make their agreed catch weight limit he would be fined 1 million dollars per excess pound and that if he did not make the 147lb welter weight limit then there would be no fight at all."


                    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/282108

                    I am not just making **** up, read it for yourself, and there goes that 1,000,000 (million) dollars per pound stipulation again. BUT MANNY DIDNT PUT IT ON CLOTTEY NOW DID HE? ONLY ON LIVE DOGS DO YOU SEE THAT STIPULATION.

                    GO FIND MY POST IN THSI TOPIC PROVING WHAT ROACH AND CO STATED AGAIN, AND WHAT COTTO USUALLY WEIGHS........... 160.
                    So by your understanding and theory, has Manny done a great job from going down to 126/130 and getting up to 140+

                    Does that mean he went beyond another level to make weight and still win most fights?

                    Does that mean his close fights with Mosely and dodgy penis punch to Judah when hurt were OK? Or his pure power on Marg whose chin was wide open?

                    So when Cotto weighed in at 146, he was willing to actually weaken himself? Although he has a guy who is his trainer/nutritionalist?

                    I'm a Cotto fan but please, the excuses suck.

                    Weighing 145 doesnt mean he stays as 145 **** head. He prob mwent up close to 160...

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                    • Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1 View Post
                      EXACTLY, AND I AM THE ONE SAYING THAT 2 LBS WONT HURT THEM......BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMIT, DO you not see the logic in what I stated? even stated that most people react differently and even gave you a method on how to find your limit in losing.... when you get sick, but you ignored that.

                      I stated the truth that you were a little man because your comment came off as if you were saying you would whoop my ass or some ****.

                      YOU ARE LITTLE, YOU WOULDNT WHOOP MY ASS IF I was sick, and you fail in your logic. /thread.
                      ***** you got some cross eyes or some ****?

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