Show Me A Fight Were 2 Lbs Changed the Outcome

[HandSpeed303]

Thats a bit much though, at that weight mayweather would be skeletal. I can say 144, but I think he has problems at 142.

That wording just got to me...

Carry on.

[shade darkar]

good hes a cheater can we now all get along with life? So is pac a cheater as well?

145 weight stipulation on cotto for the belt, and then come in heavier than cotto? thats honest and fair and holy?? Gimme a break!

now be careful. If you say it was a contract, then you should know that mayweather coming in overweight was also adjusted for the contract thats how marquez got the weight penalty money, it wasnt like mayweather tried to sneak in and fight heavier, he told maruqez prefight, marquez agreed.

It was contractual.

So that would make pac a cheater as well right?

no. fact is mayweather was 2lbs over whichever way you want to spin it.

both fighters made 145 which was the limit so no. how do you know he came in heavier than cotto? even if he did, that would be fine because they both made the agreed upon weight. mayweather didnt make the agre4ed upon 144lbs.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

That wording just got to me...

Carry on.

LOL..... I feel ya.

[led]

actually he knows that, but doesnt understand why *******S ***** AND HOLD DOUBLE STANDARDS when it comes to floyd, so lets say floyd weighed the same during the weigh in 144, and came in 2 lbs @146 heavier than his weigh in contract? would it matter?

I am asking you personally.

the fact is he came 2 lbs heavier on weigh in not fight time. is the how a self-proclaimed the greatest does?

tune or no tune up fight, the fact that the greatest boxer dont come in agreed weight regardless of the contract. so am i asking you personally too, is ihe worth emulating for that especially he is considered as the most skilled and greatest by some boxing fans?

and hey, the ts has a double satandard too, if the TS belittled 2 pounds, then 5 lbs is a a lil bit of a big number. so we have the rematch of castillo-coralles that changed the outcome.

[goldenglove2]

If Cotto couldn't beat Pac at 145 then he wouldnt beat him at 147 either, if JMM ****** vs Floyd at 146, he'd suck at 144 as well. Show me a "rematch" were 2 lbs produced a different outcome.

yes, JMM still wouldve lost at 144..BUT you are missing the point. You are weaker the more weight you have to lose. Floyd was caught a few times by JMM and him not having to cut the xtra weight helped him take those shots............................

[goldenglove2]

the fact is he came 2 lbs heavier on weigh in not fight time. is the how a self-proclaimed the greatest does?

tune or no tune up fight, the fact that the greatest boxer dont come in agreed weight regardless of the contract. so am i asking you personally too, is ihe worth emulating for that especially he is considered as the most skilled and greatest by some boxing fans?

and hey, the ts has a double satandard too, if the TS belittled 2 pounds, then 5 lbs is a a lil bit of a big number. so we have the rematch of castillo-coralles that changed the outcome.

agreed. regardless. Floyd agreed and broke that agreement. Floyd coming in at that weight is the only thing that made that fight even worth watching or having being that JMM fought his entire careerat 135 or lower............................................. .....

[QADASHBANYAH1]

no. fact is mayweather was 2lbs over whichever way you want to spin it.

both fighters made 145 which was the limit so no. how do you know he came in heavier than cotto? even if he did, that would be fine because they both made the agreed upon weight. mayweather didnt make the agre4ed upon 144lbs.

mayweather didnt make the weight, his team told nacho, and nacho and marquez went along with the fight, this is all pre fight! The penalty and everything else was resolved before either stepped in the ring.
So the weight penalty was enacted on cotto, when cotto is naturally bigger than manny, and you dont see a problem with that?

So your problem is that FLOYD DIDNT WEIGH 144 AT THE WEIGH IN, BUT EVEN REGARDLESS IT WOULDNT HAVE MATTERED A FEW NIGHTS LATER THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME SIZE 146 (this is coming out your mouth)??? SO YOUR GRIPE ONCE AGAIN IS THAT FLOYD DIDNT SHOW UP 144, 2 LBS LIGHTER EVEN THOUGH YOU CORNERED yourself saying its expected to be heavier which floyd would have been anyway. Plus floyd paid the penalty and came in on fight night the same?? You dont see how crazy that is?
No one brags about this fight, it was a tune up fight, at no time in your mind did you think MARQUEZ had a shot... At no time!!!

REGARDING PAC


hes bigger than cotto lol! and you see nothing wrong with that, and he took his belt at a catchweight?

"Immediately following the fight, Bob Arum announced Cotto/Pacquiao would happen in October. The contracts have not been signed yet, but Arum is moving forward as if the fight will take place. Freddie Roach also seems pretty warm to the idea, but wants Cotto to come down to 144 or 143. For the belt and you see nothing wrong with this ****?? Do say you dont because if you say that then did not MARQUEZ AFREE TO FIGHT REGARDLESS?
Here is where the main problem lies with this bout. Freddie Roach has been adamant that he wants Pacquiao to continue fighting no higher than 143 or 144. While Mosley has agreed verbally to fight at 144, it is debatable whether Cotto can make this weight safely. Cotto is rather large for a welterweight fighter, and routinely comes in well over 160 on fight night.The problem with Cotto coming down to 144 or 143 is it may adversely affect his in ring performance. If Cotto struggles with the weight, it may cost him stamina, and may affect his ability to take punches from Pacquiao. Cotto struggled for years to make the 140 lb. limit, and it began affecting his performance then. He was hurt and dropped several times, most noticeable against Ricardo Torres who almost knocked him out. These performances were blamed on Cotto’s inability to make the weight safely.

If you need another example of what can happen to a weight drained fighter, look no further than Oscar De La Hoya. Against Pacquaio, De La Hoya weighed in at 145 but only put on two pounds by fight time. He was unable to rehydrate himself properly, and had to receive several IV’s. In the fight De La Hoya was slow, sluggish, and lethargic. He was dominated and stopped after eight one sided rounds.

If all parties agree and this fight is signed, it may be the weight that determines the outcome. If Roach has his way and Cotto has to boil himself down to 143, the fight may be won before fight night. Roach knows the further down in weight Cotto comes, the weaker he will be. Pacquaio looks to have the much quicker hands of the two, and may have more miles left in the gas tank. Cotto has been in several brutal wars over the last few years, and may be starting to show signs of wear and tear.

At 147, this fight would look to be an almost even match. At 144, Pacquaio would seem to be the favorite. At less than 144, it could become another lopsided Pacquaio blowout.

How low will Cotto go? Only time will tell."

http://insidefights.com/2009/06/22/p...eighty-issues/

so here we have a man that comes in at 160 normally,and he cant come in over 150? you cut 10 pounds or more and you expect him to perform great? but mayweather comes in 2 lbs over and you **** yourself?

look at that picture....... stare at it, people were saying cotto is the bigger fighter, yes he is without catchweights and weight stipulations
But go watch the fight and tell me whos bigger.....

You will need that GAS MASK, BECAUSE YOU ARE SPITTIN PURE BULL**** MY FRIEND.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

the fact is he came 2 lbs heavier on weigh in not fight time. is the how a self-proclaimed the greatest does?

tune or no tune up fight, the fact that the greatest boxer dont come in agreed weight regardless of the contract. so am i asking you personally too, is ihe worth emulating for that especially he is considered as the most skilled and greatest by some boxing fans?

and hey, the ts has a double satandard too, if the TS belittled 2 pounds, then 5 lbs is a a lil bit of a big number. so we have the rematch of castillo-coralles that changed the outcome.

I SWEAR YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, NO ONE IS GIVING MAYWEATHER PRETTY MUCH NO CREDIT FOR WINNING THAT FIGHT, But you fail in that you seem not to be able to understand that the contract was altered pre-fight as well. NACHO and his fighter agreed. I told you guys once, if floyd was leaning on him, then yeah I could see you guys having a point, but that didnt happen, he got out boxed, out countered.

[B]I honestly dont expect you to understand this as KEITH "THE DEAN OF MEAN" JARDINE IS SOMEONE YOU LIKE IM MMA LOL! A ****IN BUM.[/B]

[QADASHBANYAH1]

yes, JMM still wouldve lost at 144..BUT you are missing the point. You are weaker the more weight you have to lose. Floyd was caught a few times by JMM and him not having to cut the xtra weight helped him take those shots............................

yep 2 whole pounds all in his face.....

[shade darkar]

mayweather didnt make the weight, his team told nacho, and nacho and marquez went along with the fight, this is all pre fight! The penalty and everything else was resolved before either stepped in the ring.
So the weight penalty was enacted on cotto, when cotto is naturally bigger than manny, and you dont see a problem with that?

So your problem is that FLOYD DIDNT WEIGH 144 AT THE WEIGH IN, BUT EVEN REGARDLESS IT WOULDNT HAVE MATTERED A FEW NIGHTS LATER THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME SIZE 146 (this is coming out your mouth)??? SO YOUR GRIPE ONCE AGAIN IS THAT FLOYD DIDNT SHOW UP 144, 2 LBS LIGHTER EVEN THOUGH YOU CORNERED yourself saying its expected to be heavier which floyd would have been anyway. Plus floyd paid the penalty and came in on fight night the same?? You dont see how crazy that is?
No one brags about this fight, it was a tune up fight, at no time in your mind did you think MARQUEZ had a shot... At no time!!!

REGARDING PAC


hes bigger than cotto lol! and you see nothing wrong with that, and he took his belt at a catchweight?

"Immediately following the fight, Bob Arum announced Cotto/Pacquiao would happen in October. The contracts have not been signed yet, but Arum is moving forward as if the fight will take place. Freddie Roach also seems pretty warm to the idea, but wants Cotto to come down to 144 or 143. For the belt and you see nothing wrong with this ****?? Do say you dont because if you say that then did not MARQUEZ AFREE TO FIGHT REGARDLESS?
Here is where the main problem lies with this bout. Freddie Roach has been adamant that he wants Pacquiao to continue fighting no higher than 143 or 144. While Mosley has agreed verbally to fight at 144, it is debatable whether Cotto can make this weight safely. Cotto is rather large for a welterweight fighter, and routinely comes in well over 160 on fight night.The problem with Cotto coming down to 144 or 143 is it may adversely affect his in ring performance. If Cotto struggles with the weight, it may cost him stamina, and may affect his ability to take punches from Pacquiao. Cotto struggled for years to make the 140 lb. limit, and it began affecting his performance then. He was hurt and dropped several times, most noticeable against Ricardo Torres who almost knocked him out. These performances were blamed on Cotto’s inability to make the weight safely.

If you need another example of what can happen to a weight drained fighter, look no further than Oscar De La Hoya. Against Pacquaio, De La Hoya weighed in at 145 but only put on two pounds by fight time. He was unable to rehydrate himself properly, and had to receive several IV’s. In the fight De La Hoya was slow, sluggish, and lethargic. He was dominated and stopped after eight one sided rounds.

If all parties agree and this fight is signed, it may be the weight that determines the outcome. If Roach has his way and Cotto has to boil himself down to 143, the fight may be won before fight night. Roach knows the further down in weight Cotto comes, the weaker he will be. Pacquaio looks to have the much quicker hands of the two, and may have more miles left in the gas tank. Cotto has been in several brutal wars over the last few years, and may be starting to show signs of wear and tear.

At 147, this fight would look to be an almost even match. At 144, Pacquaio would seem to be the favorite. At less than 144, it could become another lopsided Pacquaio blowout.

How low will Cotto go? Only time will tell."

http://insidefights.com/2009/06/22/p...eighty-issues/

so here we have a man that comes in at 160 normally,and he cant come in over 150? you cut 10 pounds or more and you expect him to perform great? but mayweather comes in 2 lbs over and you **** yourself?

look at that picture....... stare at it, people were saying cotto is the bigger fighter, yes he is without catchweights and weight stipulations
But go watch the fight and tell me whos bigger.....

You will need that GAS MASK, BECAUSE YOU ARE SPITTIN PURE BULL**** MY FRIEND.

I cant be arsed reading all that, because the first part doesnt even make sense!

I think its common knowledge that floyd didnt make weight against JMM. Talk as much **** as you want, it doesnt change that fact. JMM and his team agreed to make it a welterweight fight AFTER he weighed over the limit.

Iv not much to say about pac vs cotto because both fighters made weight. 145 was the limitand it was respected by both fighters.

get over yourself.