Ali at 38 years old ( vitali's age )

[TheGreatA]

Kicks are more damging than punches? Ok. Another "fact" pulled out of his ass by Tunney, who as far as I know has never engaged in any combat sport.

Vitali's four year break was beneficial, he was injured, he got surgery, he healed, he recovered. Sometimes the benefit of resting from serious injuries outweighs the negative of inactivity.

Ali did not need a break, all the break did was accumulate ring rust.

Anyways, Ali fought Joe Frazier, a top ten ATG heavweight, only a couple fights after his layoff.

Vitali fought Sam Peter.

Oh, and another thing Tunney. I just remembered Ali did that exhibition with the Japanese martial artist who kicked the living **** out of Ali's legs, giving him serious problems with his legs, I've even heard it cited before as a partial reason Ali's legs were so bad later in his career.

So if kicks are more damaging Tunney...........

Inoki did wreck Ali's legs. Ali also had other injuries, such as damage to his kidneys from the numerous body blows he had taken in his career, which is why his doctor Ferdie Pacheco left his camp after the Shavers fight, thinking Ali should have retired by then.

[Chex31]

Your arguments are based on skewing and twisting facts (ie: facts that nee to be looked into and taken into context, not just accepted) to suit your agenda.

Dont bother.

knn is a troll that is only on here to hate on Muhammad Ali

[Reloaded]

What im trying to say is 38 is too old for most to compete in boxing

Depends entirely on how many rounds and how tough were those rounds both sparing and actual fights more than throwing a blanket over age , and the bigger fighters age slower than the smaller fighters probably because the smaller guys are faster with sharper reflex ,,,, age dont tell the full story .

[knn]

do you honestly think that any of Vitali's opponents were as good as Frazier or Foreman? honestly?

Better than Frazier? A lot of opponents. Frazier would be a B-level fighter nowadays. Wait, he wouldn't even be allowed to box (because he was blind on his left eye).

Better than Foreman? Hard to say. I believe that Foreman is one of the seldom example of Ali's opponents that are comparable to nowadays era. However when you analyze Foreman's record then not much stays actually.

As I mentioned: Foreman has only scored 2 KOs in world championship fights. Thus the correct question is: Does Foreman have any win on his record that is better than Vitali. No, he doesn't.

Having said that: I believe that Foreman is better than Ali and that Foreman had better chance against the Klitschkos (or any other modern heavy) than Ali.

[Schmerzen]

Better than Frazier? A lot of opponents. Frazier would be a B-level fighter nowadays. Wait, he wouldn't even be allowed to box (because he was blind on his left eye).

Better than Foreman? Hard to say. I believe that Foreman is one of the seldom example of Ali's opponents that are comparable to nowadays era. However when you analyze Foreman's record then not much stays actually.

As I mentioned: Foreman has only scored 2 KOs in world championship fights. Thus the correct question is: Does Foreman have any win on his record that is better than Vitali. No, he doesn't.

Having said that: I believe that Foreman is better than Ali and that Foreman had better chance against the Klitschkos (or any other modern heavy) than Ali.

u can have my german **** if u shut up then, *****

[knn]

u can have my german **** if u shut up then, *****

I knew you were gay.

[crillz]

honestly I give Vitali respect because he handled his business, people forget his career has been plauged with injuries, he lost out 4 years of his career and came back to a fight where he made Samuel Peter quit we can't forget who we talking about here yo because even an aging Vitali would be too much for damn near any Heavyweight today, including his own brother

[Schmerzen]

I knew you were gay.

lol , i thought u were a girl, at least u can cry like one^^

[knn]

lol , i thought u were a girl, at least u can cry like one^^

Oh, you weren't sure that I am a man? So you are not only gay but also a fan of dark rooms?

[Cash Cow]

anybody have a stream for the Cotto-Foreman fight?