Ali at 38 years old ( vitali's age )

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  • daggum
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    #71
    Originally posted by knn
    You wrongly assume that Vitali would perform as abysmally as Ali vs Frazier and Norton.

    Let's compare Vitali to someone who actually has similar hard punch: To Foreman.

    You know what happened when Foreman met Frazier and Ken Norton, don't you. Norton TKO 2, Frazier TKO5, Frazier TKO2.

    It would be as easy to beat Frazier and Norton as it was for Foreman. Maybe even easier, since Foreman was only 6'3.5'' and 210+ lbs and Foreman has a lower KOratio (against worse opponents) than Vitali Klitscho.
    good try. vitali is an accumulation puncher not a one punch puncher like foreman so it wouldn't be as easy.

    vitali fought better opponents? besides lewis which he lost has he fought anyone close to the level of norton, frazier, lyle, holyfield? oh wait yea he fought chris byrd a light heavyweight and lost that fight lol!

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    • street bully
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      #72
      Ali is the greatest HW that has ever lived, and has the best resume in the history of boxing, and was the sportsman of the century.

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      • knn
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        #73
        Originally posted by daggum
        good try. vitali is an accumulation puncher not a one punch puncher like foreman so it wouldn't be as easy.
        Nonsense.

        Vitali Klitschko scored 25 KOs in rounds 1-3.
        Foreman I (prime Foreman of the 70ies) scored 20 (against a median opponent of 16-14 = mainly bums)
        Foreman II scored 14.

        Considering that Foreman was mainly fighting bums Vitali Klitschko has the better resume.

        Originally posted by daggum
        vitali fought better opponents? besides lewis which he lost has he fought anyone close to the level of norton, frazier, lyle, holyfield?
        Frazier was blind on his left eye, a dwarf and a featherfist (50% KOratio in heavyweight fights). Don't mention him ever again to prove a greatness of a fighter.

        And did you just list Holyfield (= loss for Foreman) as a proof for Foreman's good resume?

        Originally posted by daggum
        oh wait yea he fought chris byrd a light heavyweight and lost that fight lol!
        Byrd wasn't a light heavyweight in his fight against Vitali. Don't invent things.

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        • BoxingFanFirst
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          #74
          Why do people try to make Vitali, and Wlad seem so great. They have never faced good competition. Is that there faults? Nope. Too bad though.

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          • NChristo
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            #75
            Originally posted by knn
            Please don't compare a cruiser/sub-cruiser beating other cruisers/sub-cruisers to a superheavyweight beating other superheavyweights.
            So what the **** is your problem ?.

            I was just pointing out a boxer who lasted until he was 50 and was very successful, wasn't comparing him to anyone, and Moore was a Light heavy beating Light heavies then he moved up to be a Heavy beating Heavies with a KO record that far outshines anyone else and always will.

            What is your problem with pre-90s boxers ?, seems you're butt hurt by them.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #76
              That's a bad example. Who pushing 40 wouldn't look bad against a prime Larry, esp a guy who'd been in wars with punchers like Foreman, Liston, Frazier, Shavers, Norton and Williams and who had Parkinsons to boot?

              Spinks might be a better example. No way in hell would a prime Ali lose even a single round to "Neon" Leon.

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