Damn, Amir Khan is going mad again on Twitter

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  • wazaa.
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    #101
    Originally posted by Clegg
    Most British fighters are ****, the comparison is worthless.

    I couldn't name an active British heavyweight with a better resume than Haye, does that prove he isn't a ducker and a joke? Of course not.

    Name a boxer who is the same age as Khan in the same division yet has a better resume? How about Devon Alexander?

    The difference of course is that Alexander wasn't overrated by his fellow Americans and given more attention than his achievements deserved. Khan therefore was enough of a draw to cherry pick. Alexander didn't have that luxury. Despite this, Alexander didn't get KTFO in less than a minute and Khan did, and Alexander has still achieved more as a pro and avoided no one.
    So Amir shouldnt have taken the money and should have avoid all the publicity after he won the Olympic medal? Listen mister, fact of the matter is that Khan at the age of 23 has a better resume then:
    • Bradley at the age of 23,
    • Ortiz at the age of 23,
    • Maidana at the age of 23,
    • Urango at the age of 23
    • Malignaggi at the age of 23
    • Kotelnik at the age of 23,
    • Peterson at the age of 23,
    • Hatton at the age of 23,
    • Witter at teh age of 23.


    Only one that has arguably a better resume than Khan now is Alexander.

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    • wazaa.
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      #102
      Originally posted by Hitman932
      Does it have to be "significantly" better? Cause it certainly is better. I guess the gap is up for debate.

      Alexander's opponents were not only better, but they were not handpicked to protect his weaknesses.

      And on top of that you are nuts if you don't think knocking out Juan Urango with a vicious uppercut isn't a better result than scoring a TKO over a badly faded featherfisted Pauli.

      And one more thing: Even though Alexander is young and could have gotten away with it he has too much fighting pride to cheat fans with a farce of a fight like Amir Khan did with Salita.
      Who did Urango beat?

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      • Gordon_Gekko
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        #103
        Originally posted by PensionKiller
        I have never heard anyone say they dislike Amir ebcause he drives fast cars and crashes them.

        Especially since msot people have crashed a car in their lives and 100% all have speeded.

        Sorry for the loud mouth though. My bad
        I meant it in the sense that people just build a picture in their heads. And yes most people speed and crash a car, but doing it more than once at a young age pictured in very flash cars gives the impression that he is a bit out of touch with the people. You're right this isn't the main and only reason why people might like him less than they used to but in Britain (i'm not sure where you're from) the public really hate arrogance and flashy people, hence why Ricky Hatton, someone at the extreme spectrum of being a 'people's person' is so popular.

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        • wazaa.
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          #104
          I'm going to bed now. I'm gonna go jogging in the morning. Need to sleep well.

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          • Hitman932
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            #105
            Originally posted by wazaa.
            • Bradley at the age of 23,
            • Ortiz at the age of 23,
            • Maidana at the age of 23,
            • Urango at the age of 23
            • Malignaggi at the age of 23
            • Kotelnik at the age of 23,
            • Peterson at the age of 23,
            • Hatton at the age of 23,
            • Witter at teh age of 23.

            Honest questions here:

            How many of the guys on that list had been brutally KO'd by an average opponent who they were a 16-1 favorite over by the time they were 23?

            How many of those fighters had been put on their ass by a guy with less than 10 career KO's when they were 23?

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            • PensionKiller
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              #106
              Originally posted by Gordon_Gekko
              I meant it in the sense that people just build a picture in their heads. And yes most people speed and crash a car, but doing it more than once at a young age pictured in very flash cars gives the impression that he is a bit out of touch with the people. You're right this isn't the main and only reason why people might like him less than they used to but in Britain (i'm not sure where you're from) the public really hate arrogance and flashy people, hence why Ricky Hatton, someone at the extreme spectrum of being a 'people's person' is so popular.
              Hatton was really only popular in Manchester, particularly the City fans who are generally ****s that whistle anthems and get drunk etc...

              He really only got favoured when he faced Mayweather, which had that UK VS USA publicity which worked wonders.

              Hatton does have a good local lad personality which helps of course.

              Khan may have the impression of being out of touch by having two accidents perhaps, but I doubt anyone who actually watches boxing will be affected by it at all.

              The public love arrogance when it suits them.

              Prince Naz was a little hated but loved by boxing fans.

              Even Eubank had a loyal fan base.

              Mayweather is loved here, I mean how many showed up when he went to that gym?

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              • Clegg
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                #107
                Originally posted by wazaa.
                So Amir shouldnt have taken the money and should have avoid all the publicity after he won the Olympic medal? Listen mister, fact of the matter is that Khan at the age of 23 has a better resume then:
                • Bradley at the age of 23,
                • Ortiz at the age of 23,
                • Maidana at the age of 23,
                • Urango at the age of 23
                • Malignaggi at the age of 23
                • Kotelnik at the age of 23,
                • Peterson at the age of 23,
                • Hatton at the age of 23,
                • Witter at teh age of 23.


                Only one that has arguably a better resume than Khan now is Alexander.
                No, Amir and his joke fans have a choice.

                Amir could have fought the best and been a champion. Or he could've accepted his role as a B level fighter until he was ready to step up.

                Instead, he has behaved like a B level prospect, facing handpicked opponents, while claiming that he wants to fight the best and having his idiot fans eat it up and say that he was going to fight Maidana.

                If you want to claim that Khan is B level and cherry picking then fair enough. Instead you act as if he should be highly-rated. You act as if he wants to fight Maidana, Alexander and Bradley. The truth is he doesn't, so you shouldn't be surprised when you get called out for yet again overrating him and giving him more credit than he deserves.

                I defended Khan when, as a prospect he took it slowly. But once you hold a belt and act as if you're the best and want to fight the best, then you deserve more scrutiny and more critisism.

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                • Gordon_Gekko
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by PensionKiller
                  Hatton was really only popular in Manchester, particularly the City fans who are generally ****s that whistle anthems and get drunk etc...

                  He really only got favoured when he faced Mayweather, which had that UK VS USA publicity which worked wonders.

                  Hatton does have a good local lad personality which helps of course.

                  Khan may have the impression of being out of touch by having two accidents perhaps, but I doubt anyone who actually watches boxing will be affected by it at all.

                  The public love arrogance when it suits them.

                  Prince Naz was a little hated but loved by boxing fans.

                  Even Eubank had a loyal fan base.

                  Mayweather is loved here, I mean how many showed up when he went to that gym?
                  Really good points. Completely agree with all of them. It's very difficult to answer why some people take to boxers and not as well to others then I guess.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Hitman932
                    Does it have to be "significantly" better? Cause it certainly is better. I guess the gap is up for debate.

                    Alexander's opponents were not only better, but they were not handpicked to protect his weaknesses.

                    And on top of that you are nuts if you don't think knocking out Juan Urango with a vicious uppercut isn't a better result than scoring a TKO over a badly faded featherfisted Pauli.

                    And one more thing: Even though Alexander is young and could have gotten away with it he has too much fighting pride to cheat fans with a farce of a fight like Amir Khan did with Salita.
                    Wrong. Alexander has clearly stated that he is more than willing to fight hand-picked opponents like Kotelnik (a fighter that Khan beat unanimously) and Prescott (a fighter that has lost two of his last three fights).

                    As for Urango, he was clearly beaten by Malignaggi. Considering that Malignaggi is a better fighter than Urango, Alexander beating Urango is not more impressive than Khan beating Malignaggi in any way whatsoever.

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                    • John Hue
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by PensionKiller
                      The public love arrogance when it suits them.

                      Prince Naz was a little hated but loved by boxing fans.

                      Even Eubank had a loyal fan base.

                      Mayweather is loved here, I mean how many showed up when he went to that gym?
                      I think Khan's image problem is pretty well summed up in Clegg's post and the point you raise about arrogance. Naz,Eubank and Mayweather all had the ability and will to back up their arrogance. Khan talks a good fight but never gets into one. That is the problem he is protected like a prospect yet wants to be taken seriously as a credible champion. To do that the cherry picking has to stop and he has to back up his bull**** and take on the best not just talk about it. Once he does that and he is showing NO signs of doing so things will change but until he backs up his claims there is no reason why real fight fans should take him seriously.

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