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Sup Joe, I can't compare ducks okay. So here is how I come to a conclusion about each guys level of comp. First question I ask is, how long has each fighter participated in a given weight class. In this case both are welterweights correct? Ok so using that as my starting point, Floyd has been a welterweight since November 2005 against Sharmbe Mitchell, we're now in 2010 so according to my math that would roughly be 5 years as a welter(yes I realize he went on an extended vacation).
I then look at the fighters he faced in that span of time and weigh that against the opposition he didn't face, in this case Cotto, Margarito,Mosley (younger version) or even give a guy like PWill an opportunity to make a name for himself, after all it's charitable, but that's for another day and time.
Okay the next question I ask myself is, how long has Pac been a welterweight? Prior to that how long was he at junior welterweight? Prior to him being at 140/147, in context you weigh his achievements against the expectations, so for example say this was 3 years ago and Pac said I'm moving up and fighting ranked welterweight opposition in both Clottey and Cotto, no one in their right mind if they are being honest thought he could last against two naturally bigger men, they would have laughed it off. We didn't know what he would be become as he moved up in weight and just how dominating he would be, now Floyd has been dominant for much longer, so I give him that, but Pac has been dominant in weight classes that he has only been participating in for an extremely limited amount of time. I don't give him credit for Oscar, but I credit him with both Cotto and Clottey, obviously Clottey has been capable against everyone he has ever entered the ring with, giving both Cotto and Margarito all they could handle, against Pac he got handled. Cotto a walk you down, grinding body attack type of fighter was forced to back pedal against a naturally smaller guy and eventually dominated, at some point you have put things in context and give Pac credit for these accomplishment because of the limited amount of time it took for him to do it.Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 05-26-2010, 05:05 PM.Comment
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@Sapaw, Floyd is an amazing boxer, probably the best pure boxer of our generation. I just want him to fight either Pacman, Sergio Martinez or Paul Williams. If he fights and beats any of those guys he will be the number one P4P fighter. Thing is, if the Pacman fight doesn't go through, will he accept $10 to $12 million to fight Sergio or Paul? I will only pay a PPV if he fights any of those three and I think he can beat Paul Williams, I am not so sure of the other two but all three would be great fights, matching highly skilled fighters against each other....Comment
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LoL! Who honestly here thought Fraud would ever step in the ring with Manny? HONESTLY, ask yourself that? In every interview he would make up alibis and reasons why he doesn't need to fight Manny. He never sounded in the way he talked that he wanted to fight Manny, EVER. This just confirms it. First they bleed their way out, now they demand their way out. JUST RETIRE FRAUD, BOXING IS BETTER WITHOUT YOU!Comment
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Why does FLOYD have so many demands on a single person.
PAC GOES CLOSER to the 14-DAY cutoff deal... FLOYD goes backward from it... PAC fairly and rationally proposes a 50-50 split deal... FLOYD backs off from the deal... WHAT THE HELL ARE PEOPLE GONNA THINK ABOUT YOU NOW FLOYD???Comment
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so if we compare
Cotto vs Pacquiao 1.25
Mosley vs Mayweather 1.4
150,000 ppv is a big difference, there are some fighters that cant even pull that manny ppv.Comment
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they kill me with that crap that pac dont fight for money. if that were true he wouldnt care about the purse split and he wouldnt have rapped clottey with that BS 90/10 split. he wouldnt be a gambler if he didnt care about money. everybody that grew up dirt poor cares about money more so than a person that grew up with a little money. anybody that fights as a pro cares about money. thats also why pac has to pay arum and DLH from each fight. because he tryed to steal 250,000 from DLH. so much for he dont care about money.Comment
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@SwitchSouthPaw... good point on the difference between Floyd being a welter 5 years and Pacman systematically moving into the welterweight division...Comment
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Floyd backs off the deal??? WTF is so great about the deal now?? How come pac didnt take the fight on March 13th?? what changed?? You think if a car dealer gives you a smoking deal the 1st time around and you turned it down, then you came back 3 months later and asked for the same deal you really think your gonna get that ****?? there probably rasie the price on that ass because they did what they could for you the 1st time around.
Now Pac has nobody else to fight he has to accept this deal or wuss out in the wind. you cant say mayweather dont derserve more money though.Comment
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BINGO! good post
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