A primed Mosely would have finished of Mayweather

[Khalid X]

This would slightly make sense if youd be arguing his punch power increasige alone. But since were not it dosent.

1) If hes natuarlly a welter weight (you said he weight 146-149 on fight night) then why does he ask fighters for catch weights?
2) You explain how he has gained more power, but how has he gotten faster?
3)Why was he drainning himslef in the first place? You say hes been weighin in at 146-149 since 126, thats over 8 years, why has he waited so long to come to the division he belongs at which is also has been the biggest money class in the sport for over 5 years.

You do know that quite a few SFW's such as Rocky Juarez (when he was fighting there), Jorge Barrios and countless others come in on fight night weighing 146 just like Manny. Also Castillo use to come in close to 150 when he was a LW and David diaz and others get close to 150 on fight night as well.

Manny is a JWW at best and probable a slightly big LW. Welterweights like Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Cintron and others hit the 160s on fight night

Manny has been the same size for the last 5 years and you are actually in your physical prime from 25-32 or 33. Hell Sergio Martinez and Ivan Calderon are as fast as they have ever been IMO and are 36 and 35 respectively.

[Kalion]

You do know that quite a few SFW's such as Rocky Juarez (when he was fighting there), Jorge Barrios and countless others come in on fight night weighing 146 just like Manny. Also Castillo use to come in close to 150 when he was a LW and David diaz and others get close to 150 on fight night as well.

Manny is a JWW at best and probable a slightly big LW. Welterweights like Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Cintron and others hit the 160s on fight night

Manny has been the same size for the last 5 years and you are actually in your physical prime from 25-32 or 33. Hell Sergio Martinez and Ivan Calderon are as fast as they have ever been IMO and are 36 and 35 respectively.

Youre absolutely right, and guess what they all got WORSE as they went up. Some did down right horriblle and none moved up and got faster and together they havent had a smidigit of the success or dominance Manny has.

Also what fighters weigh on fight night really means nothing in this argument, It dosent explain anything in relation to the topic.

[Spoon23]

Not only are you completetly off topic, you also avoid all the questions and instead of answering them youve replaced the topic with an alternate reality where why Charles Barkley was listed as 6'6" instead of 6'4" explains how Pac has gotten faster while gaining weight...

It is at this point where I digress from the conversation based on the conclusion that your are delusionial and unknowledgable in terms of Pacs recent preformance and career.

He didn't get faster, as he fought higher weights his opponents where slower.

Featherweight will always be faster than welterweights lol

Some fighter start there career at a higher weight so there speed is in par with their counterparts.

Pac gradually went up. his speed didn't change coz he is a naturally 150lb human being cutting weight to reach 126 lbs and going up to 147lbs.

His not getting faster his opponents were getting slower as he goes up.

He just maintains his speed and fighters like hatton and cotto clottey are used to slow pokes. Pac is used to being fast evident to his victories at the lower weight.

what was different @ 147 with pac is that he has maxed out his true potential coz he doesn't have to cut weight to reach 147., therefore his true power came about.

[Spoon23]

Youre absolutely right, and guess what they all got WORSE as they went up. Some did down right horriblle and none moved up and got faster and together they havent had a smidigit of the success or dominance Manny has.

Also what fighters weigh on fight night really means nothing in this argument, It dosent explain anything in relation to the topic.

You said "they havent had a smidigit of the success or dominance Manny has."

What does Kobe, Michael Jordan, Pac have in common?

There rare breed of men that dominated their sport that's what. They won't be special if other athletes can do what they do.

Why can't you stop hating and think maybe pac is just a special breed of men that comes once in your lifetime.

[Spoon23]

Youre absolutely right, and guess what they all got WORSE as they went up. Some did down right horriblle and none moved up and got faster and together they havent had a smidigit of the success or dominance Manny has.

Also what fighters weigh on fight night really means nothing in this argument, It dosent explain anything in relation to the topic.

Right about what? you got owned lol

[Pacquiao'd]

Not only are you completetly off topic, you also avoid all the questions and instead of answering them youve replaced the topic with an alternate reality where why Charles Barkley was listed as 6'6" instead of 6'4" explains how Pac has gotten faster while gaining weight...

It is at this point where I digress from the conversation based on the conclusion that your are delusionial and unknowledgable in terms of Pacs recent preformance and career.

hahaha, ouch

[Spoon23]

hahaha, ouch

Geez, your obviosly a *****,.. He just got owned and you think he did good lol

Learn to read a post and reply with substance coz your like a trash polluting everywhere lol

[Khalid X]

Youre absolutely right, and guess what they all got WORSE as they went up. Some did down right horriblle and none moved up and got faster and together they havent had a smidigit of the success or dominance Manny has.

Also what fighters weigh on fight night really means nothing in this argument, It dosent explain anything in relation to the topic.

What are you talking about? Manny has been about the same size for the past 4-5 years (might be 5lbs naturally bigger at most). So why would he lose speed in that instance. As far as his power, I truly believe it has to do with the explosive training he has been doing with Ariza, combined with his improved timing and skills.

[Khalid X]

Also Lebron james has gained atleast 20lbs or more since he came in the league, and is faster and stronger than he has ever been. Brian Urlacher is another guy who gained 20-30lbs and got faster, quicker and stronger. This **** does happen alot in sports but boxing is just a game of getting down as low as you can to get an advantage. I wish more guys fought at their walk around weights because I think in some cases it might help them be alot better fighters.

[Spoon23]

Also Lebron james has gained atleast 20lbs or more since he came in the league, and is faster and stronger than he has ever been. Brian Urlacher is another guy who gained 20-30lbs and got faster, quicker and stronger. This **** does happen alot in sports but boxing is just a game of getting down as low as you can to get an advantage. I wish more guys fought at their walk around weights because I think in some cases it might help them be alot better fighters.

You got it right bro. Spot on