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  • Spoon23
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    #91
    Originally posted by Kalion
    Using your logic, explain how pac has moved up and gotten faster stronger and more punch resistance in a lesser amount of time. It took Floyd 5 yrs and according to you hes lost some of his speed in the process as a result of the wieght gain.

    And boxer physical prime is the same as most sports 24/25-29/30.If your priming past after 10 years of wars, moving up 3 weight classes in 3 years, getting faster and stronger and your 30 in my eyes your suspect.
    Do your research it's all over the thread. Pre fight HBO tale of the tape of Pacman weigh-in @ 126,130, 135, 140, and on the day of the fight pac weighs around 146- 149lbs " consistently"when he rehydrates its in hbo tale of thew tape before every fight of pac.. Hbo posts the weigh in and the actual weight before entering in the ring of the fight.

    In other words pac was killing himself to make weight when he was fighting at lower weight, therefore his actual max power was not their, but when he was fighting near his walk around weight of 150lbs (his actual weight when his not training). His true power came about coz he doesn't have to weaken himself to make weight.

    His max out power came out when he was near his weight which is welterweight @ 147. If it doesn't make sense to you then your a ***** lol

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      #92
      a prime louis would have beat marciano, a prime delahoya would havw beat pacquiao, a prime tyson would have beat lewis (maybe not) yada yada yada...

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        #93
        Originally posted by LoneBum
        a prime louis would have beat marciano, a prime delahoya would havw beat pacquiao, a prime tyson would have beat lewis (maybe not) yada yada yada...
        nope it wouldn't if you have no explanation to back it up lol

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          #94
          Originally posted by Spoon23
          nope it wouldn't if you have no explanation to back it up lol
          wow. your saying a 1940 louis would have lost to marciano?

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          • Kalion
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            #95
            Originally posted by Spoon23
            Do your research it's all over the thread. Pre fight HBO tale of the tape of Pacman weigh-in @ 126,130, 135, 140, and on the day of the fight pac weighs around 146- 149lbs " consistently"when he rehydrates its in hbo tale of thew tape before every fight of pac.. Hbo posts the weigh in and the actual weight before entering in the ring of the fight.

            In other words pac was killing himself to make weight when he was fighting at lower weight, therefore his actual max power was not their, but when he was fighting near his walk around weight of 150lbs (his actual weight when his not training). His true power came about coz he doesn't have to weaken himself to make weight.

            His max out power came out when he was near his weight which is welterweight @ 147. If it doesn't make sense to you then your a ***** lol
            This would slightly make sense if youd be arguing his punch power increasige alone. But since were not it dosent.

            1) If hes natuarlly a welter weight (you said he weight 146-149 on fight night) then why does he ask fighters for catch weights?
            2) You explain how he has gained more power, but how has he gotten faster?
            3)Why was he drainning himslef in the first place? You say hes been weighin in at 146-149 since 126, thats over 8 years, why has he waited so long to come to the division he belongs at which is also has been the biggest money class in the sport for over 5 years.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Kalion
              This would slightly make sense if youd be arguing his punch power increasige alone. But since were not it dosent.

              Answer: body frame

              1) If hes natuarlly a welter weight (you said he weight 146-149 on fight night) then why does he ask fighters for catch weights?
              2) You explain how he has gained more power, but how has he gotten faster?
              3)Why was he drainning himslef in the first place? You say hes been weighin in at 146-149 since 126, thats over 8 years, why has he waited so long to come to the division he belongs at which is also has been the biggest money class in the sport for over 5 years.

              Answer: body frame

              Body frame tells a lot about who is bigger.

              Like charles barkley is listed in the NBA as 6'6", but he is actually just 6'4".

              His frame size is big that's why he is considered a 6'6" baller.

              As Clottey is a big welterweight coz he rehydrates to 170 in fight night.His frame is big.

              Tell you what compare Mosely-pac-mayweatehr who is the smallest among the three?

              anyway believe what you want I think I explained myself clearly. Your just a *****.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Spoon23
                Bro, it only takes one punch to change the outcome of the fight. Did you watch UFC today. Iceman got ktfo with a counter and couldn't get up. It's not flimsy to think a prime Mosely could have finished him of with his power and speed working in harmony that night. Floyd maybe faster than a prime Mosely, but Mosely's power and speed is enough to finish mayweather that night for real. Remember, A past his prime Mosely caught a prime mayweather. And Mayweather is suppose to be faster that night right.
                Don't compare UFC to boxing. Of course one punch can knock you out in UFC. They don't have padding on there gloves like what boxers use.

                Yeah, Mosley hit Mayweather hard on the 2nd round, but how many times was he able to do that. Don't forget Floyd adjust well during rounds.

                How much more power do you think Mosley could have had if he was at his prime?

                Floyd would still be much faster and could beat Mosley to the punch prime or not.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by LoneBum
                  wow. your saying a 1940 louis would have lost to marciano?
                  Naah, just saying explain yourself to back up whatever claim you want yada yada yada lol

                  If you want to claim a lost treasure prove it's yours lol

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Spoon23
                    Answer: body frame

                    Body frame tells a lot about who is bigger.

                    Like charles barkley is listed in the NBA as 6'6", but he is actually just 6'4".

                    His frame size is big that's why he is considered a 6'6" baller.

                    As Clottey is a big welterweight coz he rehydrates to 170 in fight night.His frame is big.

                    Tell you what compare Mosely-pac-mayweatehr who is the smallest among the three?

                    anyway believe what you want I think I explained myself clearly. Your just a *****.
                    Not only are you completetly off topic, you also avoid all the questions and instead of answering them youve replaced the topic with an alternate reality where why Charles Barkley was listed as 6'6" instead of 6'4" explains how Pac has gotten faster while gaining weight...

                    It is at this point where I digress from the conversation based on the conclusion that your are delusionial and unknowledgable in terms of Pacs recent preformance and career.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Jo94403
                      Don't compare UFC to boxing. Of course one punch can knock you out in UFC. They don't have padding on there gloves like what boxers use.

                      Yeah, Mosley hit Mayweather hard on the 2nd round, but how many times was he able to do that. Don't forget Floyd adjust well during rounds.

                      How much more power do you think Mosley could have had if he was at his prime?

                      Floyd would still be much faster and could beat Mosley to the punch prime or not.
                      Huh? padding? geez padding won't matter if you power is there. even if you have the most padding gloves on and you get hit by tyson your going down.

                      It works for ufc and any fighting game. A good punch can turn a tide. It can daze you can give you double vision etc.

                      In the mayweather Mosely fight mayweather got rocked, he was holding on for dear life. If mosely let go he would have gone down and finished him for good if he was @ his prime.

                      Remember Pac vs hatton, first round hatton tried to hold on pac pushed him and finished the job right after. Watch it again.

                      Mayweatehr was holding mosely like his life depended on him. It is not ridicoulous to think a fast with knock out power prime mosely would have finished the job that night.
                      Last edited by Spoon23; 06-14-2010, 01:12 AM.

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