Young Oscar De La Hoya would destroy any version of Floyd...

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  • Versatility
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    #61
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    True. Idk, I kinda assumed Oscar didn't try everything either. And that maybe he was saving something for the rematch as well.

    I know people like to think stuff like that is akin to a conspiracy theory but it really isn't. Hopkins and Oscar played sparring session because they had already agreed to join forces--which they did two weeks later. And I specifically remember stating that Floyd must've agreed to relinquish certain rights on future bouts by agreeing to fight Oscar. What do you know? He's been GBP ever since.
    yh you have a valid point about floyd being in GBP since then...

    The reason why i think its possible because the general consensus is that shane mosley is a better fighter now than oscar was when he fought floyd, and i scored the 2nd round only for mosley floyd dominated the rest of the fight, so all in all oscar did better against floyd than mosley? yh i know styles make fights but something just doesnt sound right to me...

    it seems that floyd used his a or b game against mosley because for one mosley isnt the draw oscar is (rematch wouldnt do as well as a potential rematch with oscar, and floyd is a bigger draw now than he was in 2007) and second thing because of the potential big money pacquiao fight, floyd had much more to lose for the mosley fight had he not been as dominant as he was (ppv, p4p ratings, big money fight against pacquiao, etc.) For the oscar fight floyd was going up in weight, with ringsize and chosen gloves and floyds highest ppv was in the 400k range/and no other big money fights were out there other than ricky hatton who he fought next.

    conclusion: i think floyd could have been more dominant against oscar but wanted the rematch and $$$ because oscar was the biggest draw and a rematch would make floyd another 20-25 million (remember floyd wasnt that big of a draw in 2007 compared to now)
    Last edited by Versatility; 05-25-2010, 09:30 AM.

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    • theIrish
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      #62
      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
      I had to laugh at that one...

      You must have forgotten how mobile Oscar was and how solid his boxing was.

      I would never say Floyd would get destroyed, that's silly. Floyd is a great fighter and would cause problems for anyone but I do think Oscar's size would cause him problems. His jab would be key, something he couldn't throw in their fight because of age and injury.

      A prime Oscar would attempt to control the fight with the jab and then look to go low and come back high with the left hook.
      Floyd was standing in front of Oscar the entire night but we all now that Floyd has fast feet that keep him going all night long if he wants to.

      He didn't use his legs in that fight cause he could win it without using his legs (for me that's still most impressive)

      DLH landed very little clean shots although Floyd was literally standing in front of DLH which should have made it easy for DLH to use and land his jab frequently.

      So i think Floyd could've stepped up his game if needed.

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #63
        Originally posted by theIrish
        Floyd was standing in front of Oscar the entire night but we all now that Floyd has fast feet that keep him going all night long if he wants to.

        He didn't use his legs in that fight cause he could win it without using his legs (for me that's still most impressive)

        DLH landed very little clean shots although Floyd was literally standing in front of DLH which should have made it easy for DLH to use and land his jab frequently.

        So i think Floyd could've stepped up his game if needed.
        He could of but that's not Floyds style. Why risk getting caught with Oscar's left hook for?

        The last thing to leave a fighter is his power and Oscar has enough power in the left hook to end that fight early. The difference is, Floyd is smart and won't risk it.

        I don't think there is any conspiracy theories or anything like that. Fighters have WAY to much pride to agree to do something.

        I think it's the styles that dictate the type of fight we will see and Oscar is a boxer first and foremost, let's remember that.

        When you get two boxers in the ring like Floyd and Oscar, there is a chance that it won't be aesthetically pleasing to most.

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        • Dick Buffman
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          #64
          Co sign. But the problem is that Fraud would never fight a young prime version of any fighter.

          He likes them old, small or shot... If possible all 3 at the same time.

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #65
            I don't think Hoya destroys Mayweather but it would be a closer fight then the one in 07.Hoya damn near won that fight(even tho I don't think he deserved it that close)if he was younger he could have gave Floyd real problems.I would have love to see that one.

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            • The Comedian
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              #66
              Originally posted by Jack Burton
              Co sign. But the problem is that Fraud would never fight a young prime version of any fighter.

              He likes them old, small or shot... If possible all 3 at the same time.
              Cant take anything this moron says seriously, he said Margartio v Cotto 2 will do 2mill

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              • omarinbox
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                #67
                I thought Floyd was Goldenboy for the Baldomir fight. That was before De La Hoya.

                Mind you Oscar took a pretty purse for getting his ass wooped.

                $58m to Money's $25M

                Thats a good package for the Goldenboy!

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                • Tiozzo
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Badguy
                  No I'm not bluffing or BSing. Its the truth. Oscar before he got rich was ****ing ruthless. I strongly advise you guys to check this link out and watch De la Hoya vs Jeff Mayweather. Jeff fights similar to Floyd just with less power. That video is the blueprint on how to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. Notice that Jeff tried using movement but Oscar cus the ring off and got the KO. I strongly believe that 22 to 26 year old Oscar would have beat any version of Floyd Mayweather Jr. The problem is that nobody today has what oscar had back then...

                  Height
                  Reach
                  Stiffest Jab
                  Meanest flurries.

                  rtsp://v6.cache2.c.youtube.com/CkYLENy73wIaPQnr8ptzvTB5xBMYESARFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSA RSBXdhdGNoWg5DbGlja1RodW1ibmFpbGDMteuA5KDv_UsM/0/0/0/video.3gp

                  I would have just embedded the video but IDK how to get the code with my blackberry. Sorry....
                  DEstroy ? NO. Beat ? Yes.

                  THat's what I've always been saying. Younger Oscar outworks Floyd to win a close decision.

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                  • AllEyesOpen
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                    #69
                    DLH quicker, more active and with a solid jab would give anyone problems.

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                    • chris123jack
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                      #70
                      If de la hoya is younger that means floyd is younger, right? When floyd was younger he was trying to prove himself knocking people out and beating people up left and right, and still didnt get hit that often, that would of been an exciting fight. Now if we are talking about the new floyd versus the old oscar IMO it would be a boring fight were mayweather just frustrates oscar after he gets his timing down. One key advantage that mayweather has that I didnt really see people bring up is not only was floyd basically born into boxing but he has been sparring with pros since he was 16 or 17. He started sparring with pernell whittaker when he was 17. To be honest his fundamentals and defense is just to sound to be beat.

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