'USADA is not capable of certifying that athletes are clean' -Conte

[RL_GMA]

What you are saying is pure speculation. I mean, who do you guys think Floyd is. What kind of influence do you all really think that he has? Seriously. These guys have been in business before dealing with Floyd, testing other athletes in other sports. But again, if an athlete KNOWS when he is going to be tested it is easier to beat. Random testing is the best way to go, simple as that.

But the random testing makes no difference at that point if both guys for argument sake were prepping their cycles of whatever they were using months before the tests would begin, hence the point I make about both guys would have not been tested months prior when the chances of finding something are much higher.

It's like adding 1+1 and subtracting 3-1, you're still getting the same answer, just a different equation. To prolong the fight even further, they should just start testing both guys right now and put a 7-8 month window on both guys while they randomly test them...or......they could just sign the contract and fight.

[Khalid X]

have you read conte's interviews?

he's the guy who created the PED's for f's sake. he said floyd-shane testing is ****.

point is, if floyd wanted to clean up the sport, he would have done what olympians do, which is subject himself to testing year round. that would truly set an example.

not choose the fighters he would do olympic style testing within a period that can easily be beaten.

point here, there isn't a significant improvement in floyd's proposed testing if it can be cheated as well.

Bro...I'm laughing my ass off because I been saying this. I know how this **** work and when I said those test were **** that Floyd and Shane took, those *****s were crying for days.


Like I said, yeah it's random but they know when they will start the program. If you know when your random OST starts you can dope up, cycle out before you sign a fight, test clean....all while getting all the benefits of HGH use from months prior. Don't believe, pro athletes do it all the time. This is why the commision and USADA needs to work together for the sport to be truly cleaned up. Anything less is half stepping and bull****ting....which is why I never took Floyds test demands serious from the jump.

[Khalid X]

For those who are slow....

say Im a fighter and I know that I want to fight sometime early next year. If I wanted to cheat, I will dope up and cheat (remember most serious boxers train year round) sign a fight, cycle out then enter these OST programs. Remember their is a negotiation period, and sometimes it takes several week before a fight is signed. A fighter could definitely use that time period to cycle out and beast on a fighter, all while looking like a guy who is trying to clean up the sport, by passing all these test.

[Monte Fisto]

Your humor is dry, very. Why were you standing by all of Manny's excuses if you didn't really care?

Not as dry as your skin, hehe.

Anyway, based on principle alone, I'd like for PAC to simply stick to his guns and not compromise. However, if PAC and Floozy really wanna do this( well, I'm sure about PAC wanting it, I don't know about your boy, lol) then one of 'em has to just give in or they have to compromise, that's all there is to it.

With all the accusations, and OSTs, hmm, sounds like somebody doesnt' want it, if you ask me.

What's the holdup with yo' boy though ? Your Pops use to box, it's as easy as signing on that dotted line and puttin' 'em up, no need to complicate things !! am I right ?

[Monte Fisto]

Again, its better than the NSAC testing. The fact that it is random is a HUGE step up. Now, have you always felt that this testing was terrible, or any better than the NSAC testing?

All it is a deterrent. And NSAC did do a random test on PAC and Floozy, or did you forget about that. Actually, NSAC went through WADA to get a urine sample from both fighters during their off-season !!

[Reloaded]

But the random testing makes no difference at that point if both guys for argument sake were prepping their cycles of whatever they were using months before the tests would begin, hence the point I make about both guys would have not been tested months prior when the chances of finding something are much higher.

It's like adding 1+1 and subtracting 3-1, you're still getting the same answer, just a different equation. To prolong the fight even further, they should just start testing both guys right now and put a 7-8 month window on both guys while they randomly test them...or......they could just sign the contract and fight.

Frog**** , I will bet you neither Manny nor Floyd would take the risk knowing they will undergo OST random blood testing for 8 weeks prior to fighting ,,,, would you take Contes word for if its your career that will go down the gurgler like a big turd , I dont think you would , not knowing they will test the **** out of you ,,,,, Conte said USADA operated on scare tatics , they do and it works .

Take the test Manny instead of worming you way out of it .

[V.WEBB]

from testing that can easily be beaten to a random testing that can easily be beaten...

yup, improvement.

But the random testing makes no difference at that point if both guys for argument sake were prepping their cycles of whatever they were using months before the tests would begin, hence the point I make about both guys would have not been tested months prior when the chances of finding something are much higher.

It's like adding 1+1 and subtracting 3-1, you're still getting the same answer, just a different equation. To prolong the fight even further, they should just start testing both guys right now and put a 7-8 month window on both guys while they randomly test them...or......they could just sign the contract and fight.

Ok, so if this testing isn't as advertised, then Manny should have hopped on board with NO cut off date requests. But for a number of reasons, he wanted a 30 window of no testing. That's fishy. And since Conte is blasting this testing by the USADA, can we expect Manny to agree to NO cut off dates and year round testing?

Not as dry as your skin, hehe.

Anyway, based on principle alone, I'd like for PAC to simply stick to his guns and not compromise. However, if PAC and Floozy really wanna do this( well, I'm sure about PAC wanting it, I don't know about your boy, lol) then one of 'em has to just give in or they have to compromise, that's all there is to it.

With all the accusations, and OSTs, hmm, sounds like somebody doesnt' want it, if you ask me.

What's the holdup with yo' boy though ? Your Pops use to box, it's as easy as signing on that dotted line and puttin' 'em up, no need to complicate things !! am I right ?

Yawn. Floozy? My goodness. How did you feel when Tyson demanded that Evander get tested before their second fight...or did you even have knowledge of that?

[Championart]

You guys do realize that he is not saying that the USADA tests are completely useless right? What he is saying is that in order to be practically fool proof they would need to use the tests year long. Now let me ask this, since you guys think that the USADA tests which are way more stringent than the NSAC are useless then basically you guys are saying the much inferior NSAC tests are a total joke and by those logics we should just not bother to test all. Now does that make sense at all to any of you guys?

You have to learn to creep before you can walk, the USADA tests have just started to be implemented and has room for error. It is in it's creeping stages. Over time if adopted by the commissions it can be implemented in boxing full time to be used year long. But as of right now in its current form it is the best testing available and is still MUCH better than NSAC's drug tests.

Think of this also, you can't even get Pac to do full random tests in an 8 week period, do you think he would agree to a year long program?

[V.WEBB]

All it is a deterrent. And NSAC did do a random test on PAC and Floozy, or did you forget about that. Actually, NSAC went through WADA to get a urine sample from both fighters during their off-season !!

You really think that was a random test? Really?

[Boxingholic]

All this prove is Flyod Mayweather is full of crap, its obvious now that he is after one thing and thats "getting a mental advantage on Pac doing his own Paid OST testing before fight". Flyod and his team knows damn well it bothered Pac so badly to lose with Morales having a blood test before a fight, and Flyods team knows theres not much they can say to make Pac lose concentration before going in fight, so Bloodtesting is they Key to messed up Pacs focus!!! *** the Flyod Mayweather, NSAC should threat to remove his boxing license for not fighting Pac bec. of unecessary OST testing!!!