'USADA is not capable of certifying that athletes are clean' -Conte

[Prime 407]

just like floyd has every right to demand stricter testing...and on and on in circles it goes. theres no end.

no testsing regime is fool proof. but the experts agree the wada guidelines are the best in the world. if its a step uo from nsac. what is hell the whole point of callin it useless. if that is useless what the nsac program??? there is no blood, it isnt random...the **** has holes. so usada has hole too. but its much harder to navigate thru holes that open and close at random. sooner or later, ur gonna get caught.

Yo but the problem is they aren't even going by those guidelines, they're just taking bits n pieces of it and making their own **** up. That's Conte's point, if your gonna do it, then do it properly otherwise it's just BS.

[Ryannn]

ummm show me evidence olympic athletes or even cyclists are tested after their competitions or if they dont have an upcoming competition. pls dnt make stuff up. u are adding to the bull**** ppl believe on this forum.

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...lines_ooct.pdf

The DCO may attempt to locate an Athlete for Out-of-Competition testing at any location even if the location is not identified by the Athlete on his/her Athlete Location Form or in cases where Athlete Location Forms are not provided.

[Ryannn]

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...lines_ooct.pdf

not making **** up....

[Kagami Taiga]

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...lines_ooct.pdf

ok, good post. im wrong on that one.

but i think the issue with year round testing in boxing is how different boxing is as a sport. there is no one goveerning body, like there is in other sports. there is no one organization that puts all atheletes under the same umbrella. its really fragmented. so floyd could easily make it so that he himself is tested year round. but how the hell could he get another guy whom he's not gonna be fighting in the future(therefore he wont be competing against again) to sign on to year round tests? it would have to be a giant organization like the ioc or that cycling organization. its just not gonna happen in boxing. so for now, even with the holes, the testing advocated in the may/mosely fight is the best that can be hoped for.

[PAKYO]

Yo but the problem is they aren't even going by those guidelines, they're just taking bits n pieces of it and making their own **** up. That's Conte's point, if your gonna do it, then do it properly otherwise it's just BS.

That's the gist of it.

USADA made it's own guidelines not exactly the same as WADA.
If they did, why on earth they de-listed ******* derivatives from the list?
To accomodate floyd? Yeah, i think they have to as floyd's camp is the one paying them...

Damn floyd, you can fool the *****s all the time but not all people all the time.

[game20ver]

Yo but the problem is they aren't even going by those guidelines, they're just taking bits n pieces of it and making their own **** up. That's Conte's point, if your gonna do it, then do it properly otherwise it's just BS.

Your right bro, a cheater like Pacquiao's never going to follow the rules anyways, so leave him alone and let him use his PEDS.

[Khalid X]

Yo but the problem is they aren't even going by those guidelines, they're just taking bits n pieces of it and making their own **** up. That's Conte's point, if your gonna do it, then do it properly otherwise it's just BS.

Mesher.....I know you remember me saying the same thing yesterday in that one thread...lol I told those guys that and to have Conte to come out and confirm it is good because people always what a guy with credibility to speak on something before they believe it. Well, who better than they guy who was the mastermind behind alot of these PEDs.

[Dick Buffman]

Excellent post and it proves what ole' Jack Burton's been saying all along.

EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO, you could never catch people who really want to cheat.

The drugs will always evolve ahead of the testing.

Testing is a useless exercise designed by bureauc**** and politicians to give idiots a false sense of security and integrity.

[PAKYO]

Originally Posted by mesher
Yo but the problem is they aren't even going by those guidelines, they're just taking bits n pieces of it and making their own **** up. That's Conte's point, if your gonna do it, then do it properly otherwise it's just BS.

Your right bro, a cheater like Pacquiao's never going to follow the rules anyways, so leave him alone and let him use his PEDS.

Typical example of how a ***** brain works...or not really working.

[Ryannn]

ok, good post. im wrong on that one.

but i think the issue with year round testing in boxing is how different boxing is as a sport. there is no one goveerning body, like there is in other sports. there is no one organization that puts all atheletes under the same umbrella. its really fragmented. so floyd could easily make it so that he himself is tested year round. but how the hell could he get another guy whom he's not gonna be fighting in the future(therefore he wont be competing against again) to sign on to year round tests? it would have to be a giant organization like the ioc or that cycling organization. its just not gonna happen in boxing. so for now, even with the holes, the testing advocated in the may/mosely fight is the best that can be hoped for.

yes, boxing is different. that is the reason why NSAC or other governing bodies should be the one to implement the stricter testing. not fighters, performed by an institution of their choosing.

the probable reason why floyd is asking pacquiao to take the test is because he suspects him of doing PED's.

so lets say pacquiao agreed to the test with no cutoff. the one that shane and floyd went through.

apparently, that is not enough to prove manny isn't cheating. people are still gonna say he must be on something cause of how flawed the supposed "improved" testing is.