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  • Shadows
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    #41
    During the Super Six press conference that took place days after Dirrell-Abraham it was revealed that there are clauses in the contracts that say a fighter can object to fighting in their opponent's back yard or a venue they don't like. Going on that, Froch has the right to refuse the fight based upon the locations SE is talking about.

    I understand where SE event are coming from, saying that no one in America would show up for two Europeans. I guess the only sensible thing to do would be to put Froch-Abraham on the same card as Ward-Dirrell, if they were to bring it here. However, that would push the proposed date back some, and they'd probably be the opener, something that both guys may not like.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #42
      Originally posted by Clegg
      Because AA isn't willing to have the fight in the US, even though Froch is. Somehow this proves that Froch is a coward
      He has only fought Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell and Kessler in his last 4 fights. Two of them in his opponents back yards.

      Total *****.

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #43
        Originally posted by Clegg
        Bat, there are many examples of boxers travelling to mainland Europe and receiving unfair treatment.

        Look at Reid-Ottke. Sauerland were so impressed by the cheating, corrupt ref that they made him a judge for Froch-Kessler. Very fair of them.

        I don't think Haye-Valuev supports you viewpoint. A marketable Sauerland fighter won a decision over a less marketable Sauerland fighter. It's not about where the boxer comes from, it's about how much he can earn the promoter staging the show.
        And Reid-Ottke does little for your claim since that venue wasn't neutral.

        And the officials for Kessler-Froch was agreed upon by both parties so that means little.

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        • ragingvic
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          #44
          Originally posted by Clegg
          Because AA isn't willing to have the fight in the US, even though Froch is. Somehow this proves that Froch is a coward
          No sauerland is saying there is no financial gain from the US and Froch is saying no to europe becauce he believes that sauerland somehow controls all of europe. this is not about being a coward its about being unreasonable.
          Last edited by ragingvic; 05-24-2010, 02:43 PM.

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          • Shadows
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            #45
            Originally posted by ragingvic
            No sauerland is saying there is no financial gain from the US and Froch is saying no to the UK becauce he believes that sauerland somehow controls all of europe. this is not about being a coward its about being unreasonable.
            You're getting your facts messed up.

            This article states how Froch wants it in either the US or England (which is a part of the UK).

            He doesn't want to go to Continental Europe.

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            • ragingvic
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              #46
              Originally posted by Shadows
              You're getting your facts messed up.

              This article states how Froch wants it in either the US or England (which is a part of the UK).

              He doesn't want to go to Continental Europe.
              my bad meant to say europe

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              • Clegg
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                #47
                Originally posted by catalinul
                Do you have any to suport other wise?
                You are 100% sure about something that there is no evidence for, and this is OK because I have no evidence to the contrary? Ridiculous.

                Got any evidence that the contract didn't call for both boxers to wear green shorts? No? Oh, well then you must be 100% sure that the contract does say that then

                Originally posted by Pension-Killer
                This is boxing.

                Having a handshake in boxing is like leaving your sleeping naked girl alone with a guy who just got out of jail.
                This doesn't really relate to any of the points that I made.

                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                And Reid-Ottke does little for your claim since that venue wasn't neutral.

                And the officials for Kessler-Froch was agreed upon by both parties so that means little.
                The problem with addressing the 'neutral' argument is that fights don't usually take place on neutral ground. I felt that Valuev's fights with Holyfield and Haye ended with questionable decisions. Both fights were on neutral ground, but both ended the way that Sauerland wanted them to end.

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                • catalinul
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Clegg
                  You are 100% sure about something that there is no evidence for, and this is OK because I have no evidence to the contrary? Ridiculous.

                  Got any evidence that the contract didn't call for both boxers to wear green shorts? No? Oh, well then you must be 100% sure that the contract does say that then
                  The evidence is that all media outlets have posted this info and I haven't seen anyone in the mdeia or promoters'television or otherwise to negate it leading me to believe that it is indeed true.
                  Therefore it the fight does not happen(which I doubt) because Froch wants it in America it would be his fault for breaking his contract.

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                  • Heru
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                    #49
                    Valuev-Holyfield happened in Sweden. Sauerland's corruption isn't restricted to Germany and neither has a corrupt system of officials implemented in the US.

                    Good move by Froch.

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                    • Clegg
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by catalinul
                      The evidence is that all media outlets have posted this info and I haven't seen anyone in the mdeia or promoters'television or otherwise to negate it leading me to believe that it is indeed true.
                      Therefore it the fight does not happen(which I doubt) because Froch wants it in America it would be his fault for breaking his contract.
                      I'm going to stop replying to you now because you seem to ****** to have a discussion with.

                      Thanks though.

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