If Amir Khan Was White British Would He Be More Popular in UK?

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  • S H O B O X
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    #161
    Originally posted by Hard Boiled
    Last time I checked the US had a mixed race President. Look at Manny Pacquio popularity in the US, Look at Mayweather, Now look at Khan in the UK.

    Not all British are racist, But Khan is certainly very targetted by racists because he is an anathema to everything the racists stand for: He is young, Rich, Asian. I really have no qualms saying the US is the most tolerant and diverse nation on earth, If only other countries could emmulate the American success story the world would be a better place for everyone.

    Still no-one from the UK has been able to answer a simple question: Why does Hatton, Froch and Mitchell, Murray get alot more of a following than Khan? Khan couldnt even get on PPV for his Malignaggi fight and had to give the fight for free to ITV some unknown channel for his fight to be shown in his own country.
    Hatton - Blue collar , down to earth kind of guy , attracts lots of football like fans , easy to see why he has a bigger fanbase
    Froch - THis guys has definantely been overlooked by the british media! he cant even get ITV to show his fights , outside of nottingham he doesnt even have a large fanbase
    Murray - You're joking right? Murray barely sells out leisure centres while khan fills arenas
    Mitchell - Had a lot of hype after the prescott fight and would have been the next hatton if he'd won , didnt have a big fanbase before prescott and it'll probably dwindle now

    to answer the thread question , yes he would be more accepted if he was white because there is undoubtedly a minority of fans who dont like him because of his pakistani roots but there would still be plenty of people who wouldnt like him because of ducking punchers and various other respectable reasons

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    • Bubba Chunday
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      #162
      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
      If the majority of the population in Britain were Asian, Khan would be more popular in Britain, what does that say?

      That rightly or wrongly he will!! appeal to a wider audience if he shares the same race, but thats whether the population is white, black or Asian.
      Bingo.

      Its not about racism.

      Its about what appeals to the largest audience.

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      • Hard Boiled
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        #163
        Originally posted by S H O B O X
        Hatton - Blue collar , down to earth kind of guy , attracts lots of football like fans , easy to see why he has a bigger fanbase
        Froch - THis guys has definantely been overlooked by the british media! he cant even get ITV to show his fights , outside of nottingham he doesnt even have a large fanbase
        Murray - You're joking right? Murray barely sells out leisure centres while khan fills arenas
        Mitchell - Had a lot of hype after the prescott fight and would have been the next hatton if he'd won , didnt have a big fanbase before prescott and it'll probably dwindle now

        to answer the thread question , yes he would be more accepted if he was white because there is undoubtedly a minority of fans who dont like him because of his pakistani roots but there would still be plenty of people who wouldnt like him because of ducking punchers and various other respectable reasons
        Hatton: Thanks for agree than Hatton has/had a much bigger fanbase than Khan, Khan didnt have 10,000 people follow him to the US.

        Froch: His fans are very, very dedicated to him they might be fewer in number than Khan fans, But thier loyalty makes up for the smaller numbers.

        Murray: According to Mick Henessy Murray can fill a 20,000 arena for a Katsidis-Murray bout.

        Mitchell: This guy was basically hyped as the one that will beat Khan, Because Mitchell ran for 12 rounds against Prescott he was hyped as a Khan/World beater, He even started talking about knocking Khan out until he got knocked out himself by Katsidis, He was given more hype and support after he "outboxed" Prescott than Khan got in his entire career.

        I think we have all agreed and the poll has show that if Khan was white, Yes he would be more popular. And so Khan was not wrong when he said : "If I were white Id be a superstar".

        I dont know why British took so much offence to that fact, Given that its true, I guess the truth hurts.

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          #164
          Originally posted by Hard Boiled
          On a seperate note, Why is it that people like Froch, Hatton, Mitchell get alot more following and support from the British than Khan? He is more talented than the lot of them put together.
          LOL more talent than Froch? No, Hatton? Maybe, Mitchell? Yeah.

          Go take a look at Froch's last 5 fights and compare it to Khans the difference is ****ing sickening.

          Also I can't speak for the whole country and neither can anyone else so this pole means **** all but imo, my opinion of Khan wouldn't change if he was white, black, brown, yellow or any other colour under the sun, the day he steps up and starts fighting the best opposition out there is the day I start rating him, until then I don't wanna hear about him.

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            #165
            Originally posted by Hard Boiled
            Hatton: Thanks for agree than Hatton has/had a much bigger fanbase than Khan, Khan didnt have 10,000 people follow him to the US.

            Froch: His fans are very, very dedicated to him they might be fewer in number than Khan fans, But thier loyalty makes up for the smaller numbers.

            Murray: According to Mick Henessy Murray can fill a 20,000 arena for a Katsidis-Murray bout.

            Mitchell: This guy was basically hyped as the one that will beat Khan, Because Mitchell ran for 12 rounds against Prescott he was hyped as a Khan/World beater, He even started talking about knocking Khan out until he got knocked out himself by Katsidis, He was given more hype and support after he "outboxed" Prescott than Khan got in his entire career.

            I think we have all agreed and the poll has show that if Khan was white, Yes he would be more popular. And so Khan was not wrong when he said : "If I were white Id be a superstar".

            I dont know why British took so much offence to that fact, Given that its true, I guess the truth hurts.
            A small pole on a boxing forum which speculates the opinions of 10s of millions of people into a couple of hundred votes proves nothing.

            Also don't even talk about hype, Khan was hyped as the next coming and got K.Od by Prescott. He was on PPV before he was even above the level of a British champion and he's fought noone worth noting apart from an old, blown up Barrera. Don't even mention Malignaggi and Kotelnik.

            The reason Khan doesn't have a big following is quite simple....he hasn't proven himself as a legitimate champion. Froch has much less of a following than Khan yet has proven himself 10x more, hmmm sort of goes against your theory.

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              #166
              Originally posted by TEDetc
              A small pole on a boxing forum which speculates the opinions of 10s of millions of people into a couple of hundred votes proves nothing.

              Also don't even talk about hype, Khan was hyped as the next coming and got K.Od by Prescott. He was on PPV before he was even above the level of a British champion and he's fought noone worth noting apart from an old, blown up Barrera. Don't even mention Malignaggi and Kotelnik.

              The reason Khan doesn't have a big following is quite simple....he hasn't proven himself as a legitimate champion. Froch has much less of a following than Khan yet has proven himself 10x more, hmmm sort of goes against your theory.
              Go to a pub when Khan is fighting, Ill bet you all my points that there will be racist comments made. Ive seen it first hand, Its really sickening that someone can represent your country, Win an olymipc silver medal at just 17 and get the kind of hatred he gets because of his skin color.

              I guess he should not have gone to the olympics aged 17 and instead stayed in an estate walking the streets with a pitbull, Drinking cider/buckfast in the local park and terrorising elderly people and colored people, Oh and having a few kids and living on benefits. Maybe then he would be more British and you could all accept him.

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                #167
                Originally posted by S H O B O X
                Hatton - Blue collar , down to earth kind of guy , attracts lots of football like fans , easy to see why he has a bigger fanbase
                Froch - THis guys has definantely been overlooked by the british media! he cant even get ITV to show his fights , outside of nottingham he doesnt even have a large fanbase
                Murray - You're joking right? Murray barely sells out leisure centres while khan fills arenas
                Mitchell - Had a lot of hype after the prescott fight and would have been the next hatton if he'd won , didnt have a big fanbase before prescott and it'll probably dwindle now

                to answer the thread question , yes he would be more accepted if he was white because there is undoubtedly a minority of fans who dont like him because of his pakistani roots but there would still be plenty of people who wouldnt like him because of ducking punchers and various other respectable reasons
                Doubt they would not like him for ducking.

                You saying the public has turned on Haye for ducking Klit's? No.

                Or Calzaghe for ducking Pavlik/Dawson/ Glen Johnson etc... no. They don't know who the **** is who.

                Froch was fofered a deal on ITV but rejected the offer. Khan apparently got offered **** but aired his Paulie fight.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by TEDetc
                  A small pole on a boxing forum which speculates the opinions of 10s of millions of people into a couple of hundred votes proves nothing.

                  Also don't even talk about hype, Khan was hyped as the next coming and got K.Od by Prescott. He was on PPV before he was even above the level of a British champion and he's fought noone worth noting apart from an old, blown up Barrera. Don't even mention Malignaggi and Kotelnik.

                  The reason Khan doesn't have a big following is quite simple....he hasn't proven himself as a legitimate champion. Froch has much less of a following than Khan yet has proven himself 10x more, hmmm sort of goes against your theory.
                  Who the **** is Froch?

                  How the hell will people know him?

                  ITV 4 once. Refused deal with ITV offer for Dirrell I believe.

                  He started hsi career late. Called Calzaghe out 10 billion times and chatted **** when Calzaghe would have beat him easily and was near retiring anyway.

                  Froch's name was not known. He made it worse by not taking ITV's offer, no matter how poor the money.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Hard Boiled
                    Go to a pub when Khan is fighting, Ill bet you all my points that there will be racist comments made. Ive seen it first hand, Its really sickening that someone can represent your country, Win an olymipc silver medal at just 17 and get the kind of hatred he gets because of his skin color.

                    I guess he should not have gone to the olympics aged 17 and instead stayed in an estate walking the streets with a pitbull, Drinking cider/buckfast in the local park and terrorising elderly people and colored people, Oh and having a few kids and living on benefits. Maybe then he would be more British and you could all accept him.
                    Sounds like the problem here is that you're racist, rather than everyone else being racist, especially if you think that's how the majority of white people in Britain are. (Lets not beat around the bush you know that's who you was trying to describe).

                    Originally posted by PensionKiller
                    Who the **** is Froch?

                    How the hell will people know him?

                    ITV 4 once. Refused deal with ITV offer for Dirrell I believe.

                    He started hsi career late. Called Calzaghe out 10 billion times and chatted **** when Calzaghe would have beat him easily and was near retiring anyway.

                    Froch's name was not known. He made it worse by not taking ITV's offer, no matter how poor the money.
                    Who is Froch? That guy who fought Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell and Kessler in his last 4 consecutive fights and will be fighting Abraham in his next one.

                    You know....that guy who actually fights people he might lose against, unlike Khan.

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                      #170
                      I remember there being a experimental program being done in the UK which was televised. This experiment had also been done in Australia and other majority 'white' countries.

                      It was basically a white woman seperating people due to their eye colour. Whoever had blue eyes instantly had to be spoken to rudely and treated unfairly. Once seperated, she told the people with brown, black eyes how to treat them and then called them back.

                      Out of all the races which took part in that, it was the 2 white people that couldn't handle what was being said and done to these because the whole targeted group was white.

                      They were unwilling to accept that such behaviour takes place in the UK towards **********. Complately blind to it. One evn said that she was a teacher and a black student fell in the playgrounds and was shocked to see that when her skin teared, that she was pink from underneath. Like she expected a darker color or something.

                      This view from an educated teacher, higher class person. Thats the ultimate problem with the UK. They are unable to believe or accept that this **** takes place.

                      The woman doing the experiment said at the end the its embedded back in their mind that they are the higher race. Wether they realise it or not. This coming from a white professor.

                      Amir Khan would have been a superstar without doubt. I dont remember anyone calling for Hatton and Calzaghe to be fighting the best out there when they had only 22 fights.

                      They believe that Khan has been hyped more, well dont fall into the hype of it and recognise that he's still learning. The bigger fights will come just as they did for the other british fighters. Their hunger for seeing Khan getting knocked out again is taking over their minds.

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