Juan Ma Lopez is a question mark with a capital Q.

[Toney Loc]

I honestly dont see how Vic getting KTFO will add to his pie.

lol he means that Gary Shaw will end up cashing out on both fighters since he promotes both of them.

[Guest]

I honestly dont see how Vic getting KTFO will add to his pie.

He keeps the promotion in house.


Maybe he's falling out with Vic.

It's an easy fight for him to make.

I think JuanMa is way more money but Shaw is wanting to control everything.

[Del Coqui]

Who has Lopez beat besides Ponce De Leon and Luevano. He has a bunch of easy KOs over nobodies on PPV undercards.

Does that mean he is not a worthy opponent for Rafa??? Vic is worthier???

[Toney Loc]

I got you bro, but jumping two divisions to fight Rafa???

That's the reason why everyone is questioning this fight. It's just a business tactic for Shaw and Rafa will stay busy and fight a southpaw to prepare for JuanMa. Vic will get a good payday since the Donaire rematch might not happen. Plus it will be a good fight while it lasts. Everyone wins.

[Del Coqui]

lol he means that Gary Shaw will end up cashing out on both fighters since he promotes both of them.

I know what he means, but Vic is a ***ing star, why would he want to cash out on Vic yet? Vic could have a lot of big fights ahead of him and that could be in jeopardy by getting hurt by a way bigger puncher.

[Left Hook Tua]

Everyone ducked Cab and he beat JuanMa's signature victory 3 years earlier.

Then people ran scared.


Those are the facts.

yes.

let's all count not getting fights as part of the resume.

i think there is actually a boxing website that records not getting fights as part of a fighter's achievements.

cyberboxingzone i think?

i don't think boxrec does it.

maybe not cyberboxingzone.

was it maxboxing?

oh now i remember. it was juanmanuelmarquez.com

[Guest]

yes.

let's all count not getting fights as part of the resume.

i think there is actually a boxing website that records not getting fights as part of a fighter's achievements.

cyberboxingzone i think?

i don't think boxrec does it.

maybe not cyberboxingzone.

was it maxboxing?

oh now i remember. it was juanmanuelmarquez.com

So Lontchi and Mtagwa are better than Mathebula or Somsak?

I call bull****.

[Iceta Lives]

I know what he means, but Vic is a ***ing star, why would he want to cash out on Vic yet? Vic could have a lot of big fights ahead of him and that could be in jeopardy be getting hurt by a way bigger puncher.

I'm with you on that bro. I just made a thread about that very thing. It seems like Showtime is cashing out on Vic or something and I don't understand it. I think Vic's lack of skills and losses is something that should cause him to have to go to the back of the line when it comes to TV dates. But I feel Rafael is just gonna hurt the kid like Donaire x 100.

[Del Coqui]

I'm with you on that bro. I just made a thread about that very thing. It seems like Showtime is cashing out on Vic or something and I don't understand it. I think Vic's lack of skills and losses is something that should cause him to have to go to the back of the line when it comes to TV dates. But I feel Rafael is just gonna hurt the kid like Donaire x 100.

I hope this fight never happens.

[Left Hook Tua]

Does that mean he is not a worthy opponent for Rafa??? Vic is worthier???

why would anyone want to see marquez vs. lopez?

****** idea.

boxing never has fights pitting old , big named veterans against young , upcoming fighters.

that's just silly.