Yet another OST Thread....intelligent posters only.

[fightfan_79]

another dump *******...you guys need to stop defending manny and think about why he didnt agree to 14 days last time around. that is a very legit question

Slick....he diddn't before...but he has NOW....that's what matters.....

So why would Floyd NOT put it back on the table?

Add to the fact that Manny tested negative (again) for any pre-fight and post fight PEDs for Clottey.

[thatnickuh]

Well if Manny is willing to compromise and agree to 14 days, why should us fans be against it. If anything, Pac is showing that he's willing to compromise to make the fight. Can we say the same for Floyd?

You didn't say this about Mayweather when he initially offered 14 days before Pacquiao fought Clottey. Another disingenuous Pacquiao gropupie.

[Deevel916]

You didn't say this about Mayweather when he initially offered 14 days before Pacquiao fought Clottey. Another disingenuous Pacquiao gropupie.

I did and felt Pac should have agreed. That was then and this is now though. Lets not forget that had Floyd not brought the issue of OSDT into the equation, we would already had this fight.

[thatnickuh]

Slick....he diddn't before...but he has NOW....that's what matters.....

So why would Floyd NOT put it back on the table?

Add to the fact that Manny tested negative (again) for any pre-fight and post fight PEDs for Clottey.

So why hasn't the possibility that Pacquiao is just playing on the ******ity of fans like you ever crossed your mind. Wow, I think I just answered my own question.

Were you urging Pacquiao to accept the 14 day offer when it was initially offered?

Did you criticize Pacquiao when he turned the offer down and walked away from Mayweather to fight Clottey?

If the answer to those questions is no, then you have no legs to stand on and should just keep your mouth shut.

[Reloaded]

You didn't say this about Mayweather when he initially offered 14 days before Pacquiao fought Clottey. Another disingenuous Pacquiao gropupie.

Thats what they do and every single one of them would be all over Floyd if it were Manny wanting the testing and Floyd coming outr with all these feeble excuses only a 2 yr old would accept , I really dont care who is involved , Im looking at it as one opponent asking the other to take a test that he himself must take to guarantee a PEDS free fight , thats a fair ask as far as I can see the rest of this is all bull**** .

[thatnickuh]

I did and felt Pac should have agreed. That was then and this is now though. Lets not forget that had Floyd not brought the issue of OSDT into the equation, we would already had this fight.

Sorry, I don't believe you. I'm almost positive that if I searched through your posting history, I'd find you making excuses for why Pacquiao was justified in not accepting the 14 day offer. I'm almost tempted to do the search just to use you an an example.

[shogunn]

So why hasn't the possibility that Pacquiao is just playing on the ******ity of fans like you ever crossed your mind. Wow, I think I just answered my own question.

Were you urging Pacquiao to accept the 14 day offer when it was initially offered?

Did you criticize Pacquiao when he turned the offer down and walked away from Mayweather to fight Clottey?

If the answer to those questions is no, then you have no legs to stand on and should just keep your mouth shut.

haha, are you mad

for the record, Manny shouldnt have to do **** other than abide by the NSAC. No one would care less if USADA wasnt involved at all. This is all floyds games.

If Manny is willing to bend to floyds 14 days to make the fight, then let it happen. This is what you call negotiating. 1 has to give in, Manny is doing his part

But now you guys are mad that manny is now bending, and some how it is more su****ious. haha. you guys stop at nothing

[Deevel916]

Sorry, I don't believe you. I'm almost positive that if I searched through your posting history, I'd find you making excuses for why Pacquiao was justified in not accepting the 14 day offer. I'm almost tempted to do the search just to use you an an example.

My stance was always that Floyd was using this whole OSDT as a tool to get into pacs head. Therefore I was never a fan of of the whole idea. Once the 14-day offer was thrown on the table, I felt it was pretty reasonable though just to get the fight to happen. Im a fight fan. Not a blood testing fan.

[fightfan_79]

So why hasn't the possibility that Pacquiao is just playing on the ******ity of fans like you ever crossed your mind. Wow, I think I just answered my own question.

Were you urging Pacquiao to accept the 14 day offer when it was initially offered?

Did you criticize Pacquiao when he turned the offer down and walked away from Mayweather to fight Clottey?

If the answer to those questions is no, then you have no legs to stand on and should just keep your mouth shut.

Nickuh....go ahead and check my history....all will indicate that I WANTED MANNY TO TAKE THE TEST FROM THE BEGINING....NONE OF THIS 1 BEFORE PROMO KICKOFF, 1 30 DAYS BEFORE 1 AFTER THE FIGHT.....THEN WHEN TEAM MAYWEATHER COUNTERED WITH THE 14 Days.....I AGAIN SAID...JUST ***IN TAKE THE TESTS......

And when he walked away to fight Clottey....I told myself and countless others.....Floyd better fight someone better or he aint never gonna hear the end of it....low and behold....the Haiti earthquake happened (RIP Victims), Berto "steps aside" and Mosley is handed to Floyd on a silver platter (so to speak).....I applaud Floyd for 1 upping Manny in that dept....and have come full circle as a Floyd fan AGAIN after his May 1st performance...

Hopefully I have defended myself IN MY OWN THREAD, when I diddn't need to...and I won't need to shut my mouth....thanks for answering the question of the thread...and READING THE TITLE....

[goldenglove2]

OK...So i've been reading about all the excuses from BOTH SIDES about why this and why that....

I have a serious question to the Floyd supporters.....

All you guys do is "dis-credit" Pacquiao's wins post-Marquez II.....and here is the list according to the majority.

Diaz = Not that good to begin with....weakest champion....should've fought SOMEONE ELSE OF NOTE (even though no one was readily available)

DeLaHoya = Drained, Shot, Way Past Prime (which we all know he was except for Manny's Militia) but remember...DLH chose to fight Manny after Mayweather "retired"...and DLH ducked Margarito.

Hatton = Floyd ruined him, never the same after getting KOd by Floyd (disagree with that due to Hatton Paulie's win was probably his BEST EVER next to Kosta). Floyd supporters stated that Hatton was shot, past it, chinny, straight forward fighter....

Cotto = Drained, ruined after plaster, 1lb of muscle makes the difference between life and death....

Clottey = Human punching bag, C level fighter at best (both of which were due to Manny in my opinion), was beat by Cotto, TR kept it in house....

So here is my question.....IF MANNY IS SO 1 DIMENSIONAL, THE QUALITY OF HIS OPPONENTS SO DISGUSTING, MANNY HAS BEEN DUCKING THE "SLICK BLACK BOXING STYLE ALL HIS CAREER", DUCKED MOSLEY WHEN NO CREDIT WOULD'VE BEEN GIVEN IF MANNY BEAT HIM, FIGHTING 1 DIMENSIONAL STRAIGHT COME AT YOU FIGHTERS.....WHY IS FLOYDS REQUEST OF OST ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BIBILE TO YOU GUYS?

According to all these threads and comments....Manny is not that good and will get EXPOSED should he ever step foot in the ring with Floyd. So is the request of OST from Floyd really: A) A ploy to win the mental game with Manny? - B) A ready made excuse to not fight Manny? - C) He is really trying to clean up the sport of boxing?

For the record....Floyd looks pretty bad asking this of a fighter he claims to be able to beat easily, PEDs or not....having 3 L's on his record....handily beating JMM (which means nothing to me)....claiming to be the PPV king....
and knowing that he and Pacquiao have basically an indentical boxing career starting off at the same ages and weights. (Floyd amatuer ranks and Manny already a 15 yr old professional)

To counter that...I am fully aware of Team Pacquiao's (not Manny himself) utter BS excuses and am frankly sick and tired of hearing from Roach, Arum and other Manny's Militia......the only thing that mattered is that Manny said that he is willing to comply with the original 14-day cutoff so we should have ourselves a fight now. If Floyd took it off the table in the post Mosley interview....why wouldn't he put it back out there, and we know have ourselves the fight of our generation. Manny should've agreed to take the tests from jump...but what's done is done and I hated Manny for that.

Pacquiao has budged....Team Mayweather's stmts seem to indicate that the fight will be much harder to make (Sr's interview regarding "never fighting Manny", Floyd's post fight). Negotiate behind closed doors....Pacquiao's stmt was exactly that...A STATEMENT...not negotiating....Floyd is probably vacationing, and well deserved, but please come back with some sense, stop listening to your dumbass of a father, and everyone sign on the dotted line.

Oh yeah...please respond to my question.....and feel free to comment on my views and opinions.

fLOYD Can be right or wrong, doesnt matter to some of his fans in here....they are delusional......they will side with him. They arent boxing fans. They are Floyd Mayweather Fans